Western Railroad Discussion > Triple-Fatal BNSF vs 2 vehicles 12 miles west of Kingman

https://www.azfamily.com/news/three-people-killed-in-collision-with-train-near-kingman-arizona/article_19faacb0-95a7-11eb-9f15-23a96bce744d.html

 

Sad.

Prayers for the families of the deceased, and for the crew.

Not much left of the vehicle

Posted from Android

Most unfortunate. Must have been a cross buck protected dirt road crossing.
JB

they assumed the train that was passing was the only one, but didnt realize a train was coming from the opposite direction on the double track.

It was interesting thta the news reported the accident was in Golden Valley. The only rail in Golden Valley was
the Santa Fe Chloride branch was taken out around 1940. Terrible price to pay for a moment of inattention

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zr1rob Wrote:
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> they assumed the train that was passing was the
> only one, but didnt realize a train was coming
> from the opposite direction on the double track.

That’s why the cross bucks have a sign that says “two tracks” but most folks aren’t vigilant enough to check and just proceed, with tragic, but predictable ( and ultimately preventable) results. Sad...

IC_2024 Wrote:
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> zr1rob Wrote:
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> > they assumed the train that was passing was the
> > only one, but didnt realize a train was coming
> > from the opposite direction on the double
> track.
>
> That’s why the cross bucks have a sign that says
> “two tracks” but most folks aren’t vigilant
> enough to check and just proceed, with tragic, but
> predictable ( and ultimately preventable) results.
> Sad...

Yes.  Do trains have to sound their horns for all cross buck protected grade crossings?  Or just public road crossings?

I've noticed that many people have the car windows up, and the music cranked way up.  While thar may help in one's chilling out, it may block out an oncoming train's horn.

I hope the hogger blew for the crossing.

This could very well have been a no blow crossing. Very common in the sticks. 

Some years ago there was a video posting of passengers who got off an evening commuter train, Chigago area, who than crossed behind the train they just left and one was struck by an opposite direction traveling train. One person saw the approaching train, the other didn't, a very disturbing video.
I'm guessing that this is a similar tragedy. I'm not sure why all humans aren't vigilant when it is there very lives at risk? 
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Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> IC_2024 Wrote:
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> > zr1rob Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > they assumed the train that was passing was
> the
> > > only one, but didnt realize a train was
> coming
> > > from the opposite direction on the double
> > track.
> >
> > That’s why the cross bucks have a sign that
> says
> > “two tracks” but most folks aren’t
> vigilant
> > enough to check and just proceed, with tragic,
> but
> > predictable ( and ultimately preventable)
> results.
> > Sad...
>
> Yes.  Do trains have to sound their horns for all
> cross buck protected grade crossings?  Or just
> public road crossings?
>
> I've noticed that many people have the car windows
> up, and the music cranked way up.  While thar may
> help in one's chilling out, it may block out an
> oncoming train's horn.

They blow for the ones that have a whistle sign for them. All public crossings have them. I'm not so sure about private crossings.

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> IC_2024 Wrote:
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> > zr1rob Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > they assumed the train that was passing was
> the
> > > only one, but didnt realize a train was
> coming
> > > from the opposite direction on the double
> > track.
> >
> > That’s why the cross bucks have a sign that
> says
> > “two tracks” but most folks aren’t
> vigilant
> > enough to check and just proceed, with tragic,
> but
> > predictable ( and ultimately preventable)
> results.
> > Sad...
>
> Yes.  Do trains have to sound their horns for all
> cross buck protected grade crossings?  Or just
> public road crossings?
>
> I've noticed that many people have the car windows
> up, and the music cranked way up.  While thar may
> help in one's chilling out, it may block out an
> oncoming train's horn.

I blow for all crossings, private or public, regardless of State laws. In other words, I do whatever I can to save a life, and I’ve saved a lot over my 30 years of running....

Pacific5th Wrote:
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> This could very well have been a no blow crossing.
> Very common in the sticks. 


This crossing is a private crossing, but requires a whistle to be blown.

Posted from Android

The Bee News said it was the crossing at 528.6. Getting tagged by a WB downhill... ugly.

When I know I'm near a "trap", rear end clearing a crossing as I'm approaching, I lay on the horn longer than I usually do.

Posted from Android

At some NJ Transit grade crossings, engineers will put a locomotive or car on the crossing. Even where there's room to clear.

Convent, Denville, Mount Tabor, come to mind.

I've seen opposing trains blast thru on the other track.

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Gonut1 Wrote:
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> Some years ago there was a video posting of
> passengers who got off an evening commuter train,
> Chigago area, who than crossed behind the train
> they just left and one was struck by an opposite
> direction traveling train.

I used to watch some of them crawl over the fence between tracks. A guy I was in high school with watched one of them get hit just as she climbed down off the fence on the middle track side.

TAW

Hookdragkick Wrote:
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> The Bee News said it was the crossing at 528.6.
> Getting tagged by a WB downhill... ugly.
>
> When I know I'm near a "trap", rear end clearing a
> crossing as I'm approaching, I lay on the horn
> longer than I usually do.
>
You can see that many times at Flagstaff, where the engineer blows warning toots when an opposing freight is just about to clear the crossing ahead of him.  Maybe some of those are you!

mapboy

i just can't understand how 2 vehicles at a crossing if they are on the same side of the road, could both cross at the same time into the path of the other train? If this is a rural, crossbuck-only crossing, its going to be a one lane road in either direction. the deceased are mature adults, probably not lined up side by side, dragstrip style ready to jump across 2 mainline tracks that they all know are heavily used (they are all from the Kingman area).

That area of the county falls under the Golden Valley Fire and Rescue area.  Any accidents along I-40 are dispatched by GV.
 

Ron Evans
Golden Valley, AZ

maybe one was being towed. that is an access road for  the area south of the tracks.  Tom W.