Western Railroad Discussion > Union Pacific's ZG4CI, IG4SI, and IG4SIB at St. Louis

I think I know part of the drill on these, but I haven't been in St. Louis in a while and looking for updates: 

Used to be a IG4LB that did its change of crews in St. Louis over just east of Grand Avenue, at that signal arm off Edwin St. That was in a 10pm-11pm time and I think 6 days/week (no Monday night, right?). 

I think that there is now a "ZG4SI" and "ZG4SIB" to Santa Teresa, NM...with lots on international containers (e.g., K-Line, Triton, Hyundai, NYK Logistics, etc.). These arrive at Edwin St. signal sort of mid-day?  These two trains operate 7 days a week from G4 in Joliet? 

Also, a "ZG4CI" arrives at that Edwin St. signal location to switch crews, right? It's daily ( right?) to City of Industry (LA), has a very "domestic" look to it (UMAX, EMP, XPOLogistics, Tiger, C.R. England, etc.), and arrives at Edwin St. in the basic time slot of 10pm-11pm of previous IG4LB. This correct?

I'm grateful to anyone who can fill this out a bit. I figure there are currently at least 3 UP westbound intermodal trains doing a crew-change at the Edwin Signal Arm location most or all 7 days of the week. 

Thank You!

- Gerrypaul

---Gerrypaul

As far as I know the ZG4CI still operates via the BNSF transcon.  You can see it daily in the afternoons on the Fort Madison cam. 

         The ZG4CI runs on the UP, Right?  RIght!   right.      Just saw it go past our house outhere, right? 

ZCIG4 is only several times a week now. The other days it's a ICIG4.

ZG4CI still running every day.

Allen

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You know what? I think you are partly correct. I think Z-G4CI operates on the BNSF as far as Armourdale in KCK. I think that a UP crew picks it up at Armourdale and takes it on its way: Herington--Pratt---Dalhart---Vaughn--Santa Teresa....etc.

 
 

Gerrypaul Wrote:
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> You know what? I think you are partly correct. I
> think Z-G4CI operates on the BNSF as far as
> Armourdale in KCK. I think that a UP crew picks it
> up at Armourdale and takes it on its way:
> Herington--Pratt---Dalhart---Vaughn--Santa
> Teresa....etc.
>
Well, a train that looks like ZG4CI came past the Ft Mad cam at 3:40pm today.   According to the last UP train list I saw around July 4th they were running an IG4SI and an IG4SIB through St. Louis, sorta as you say but not calling them Z trains.   But with UP, 25 days is an eternity as to train symbols.       

Any clues on when IG4SI and/or IG4SIB typically arrive at St. Louis for the change of crews? 

If it is similar to the pattern for the IG4LB from a few years ago, it would arrive in a basic 9pm-1am time. I. think it was daily, x not on Mondays in St. Louis. Now, whenever the time, I guess it's 7days/week.

 

As of a whopping 3 months ago (likely already changed) UP was moving the following intermodal through St. Louis that was running between Chicago and LA/ El Paso...

IG4SI (daily) - via ex-GM&O through St. Louis then ex-MoPac across MO
IG4SIB (daily) - via ex-GM&O through St. Louis then ex-MoPac across MO
ILBG4 (daily) - via ex-MoPac across MO/through St. Louis then ex-GM&O to G4

In contrast the two Z trains between these same points ran via BNSF transcon between G4 and Kansas City...

ZCIG4 (????) - via BNSF trackage rights through Ft. Madison to G4
ZG4CI (daily) - via BNSF trackage rights through Ft. Madison to Kansas city

Now if the ZCIG4 is no longer a daily train with a portion of the week it demoted to the ICIG4, then the ICIG4 is likely running via St. Louis as well.

Gerrypaul Wrote:
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> I think I know part of the drill on these, but I
> haven't been in St. Louis in a while and looking
> for updates: 
>
> Used to be a IG4LB that did its change of crews in
> St. Louis over just east of Grand Avenue, at that
> signal arm off Edwin St. That was in a 10pm-11pm
> time and I think 6 days/week (no Monday night,
> right?). 
>
> I think that there is now a "ZG4SI" and "ZG4SIB"
> to Santa Teresa, NM...with lots on international
> containers (e.g., K-Line, Triton, Hyundai, NYK
> Logistics, etc.). These arrive at Edwin St. signal
> sort of mid-day?  These two trains operate 7 days
> a week from G4 in Joliet? 
>
> Also, a "ZG4CI" arrives at that Edwin St. signal
> location to switch crews, right? It's daily (
> right?) to City of Industry (LA), has a very
> "domestic" look to it (UMAX, EMP, XPOLogistics,
> Tiger, C.R. England, etc.), and arrives at Edwin
> St. in the basic time slot of 10pm-11pm of
> previous IG4LB. This correct?
>
> I'm grateful to anyone who can fill this out a
> bit. I figure there are currently at least 3 UP
> westbound intermodal trains doing a crew-change at
> the Edwin Signal Arm location most or all 7 days
> of the week. 
>
> Thank You!
>
> - Gerrypaul
>
> ---Gerrypaul



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/02/21 17:12 by AaronJ.