Western Railroad Discussion > Super Duper coal bucket

A friend of mine forwarded and email from an engineer friend of his from Marysville.
It seems this gentleman wascalled for a westbound coal train empties with 9 units, 429 cars and 23,000 feet long.
What next????

Here is the history of this train.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/21 15:20 by Bob3985.

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The union is going to have to negotiate special pay for trains that arrive at their final terminals BEFORE their rear end clears yard limits at their initial terminals...

;^)

I believe you are right Lance.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY

Hmmmm, well what could possibly go wrong ? (!)

Just imagine sitting at a crossing waiting for that thing to pass.  You could darn near run out of gas.  That is 4.35 miles long.  Good greif.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/21 18:24 by tomstp.

tomstp Wrote:
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> Just imagine sitting at a crossing waiting for
> that thing to pass.  You could darn near run out
> of gas.

Or, having to address a broken knuckle four miles back...

hey bob,

is there any way you can get me that beast's symbol?

i want to run it in a dispatching simulation.

thanks for any info...........

66

Another thing,  there is a place  on UP's Baird sub where that train would be in two passing sidings at once,  Jayell and Putnam..

Bob,

When I was on the N&W, as part of the 1962 delivery of GP30 units, they were regularly moving 350 empty hoppers eastbound out of Portsmouth, OH back to Williamson, W Va. The trains generally were dispatched with 3 GP9 units. Rarely were there any problems. When a "new manager" showed up, the empty eastbound trains began to increase in length from 350, to 400, to 425, to 450, to 475. Surprisingly, operations were working smoothly. When the "test train" of 500 empties was dispatched, in the fall of 1962, things suddenly didn't work out so well. Imagine THAT!

The N&W returned to 350 empties eastbound to Williamson, W Va,,powered by the usual 3 GP9 units. I never heard what happened to the "new manager".

Bob3985 Wrote:
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> A friend of mine forwarded an email from an engineer friend
> of his from Marysville. It seems this gentleman was called for
> a westbound coal train empties with 9 units, 429 cars and
> 23,000 feet long. What next????

They ran a CWLBT 29 combo of 3 trains on 01-Sep-2021 as a 2+3+3+1 with 0-426-10210-23679’.

I’m not sure this is going to be common place, but I can see more of these running between specific locations — namely, in/around Nebraska where empties from various locations converge — and/or when circumstances allow.

thanks for the info habu...........

66

So this one train occupies an entire signal block?

santafe199 Wrote:
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> The union is going to have to negotiate special
> pay for trains that arrive at their final
> terminals BEFORE their rear end clears yard limits
> at their initial terminals...
>
> ;^)

Knowing the UP. . . "Well, we're going to dock your pay since your train never left your home terminal."

tomstp Wrote:
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> Just imagine sitting at a crossing waiting for
> that thing to pass.  You could darn near run out
> of gas.  That is 4.35 miles long.  Good greif.

At 10mph it would be nearly half an hour from the time the gates went down until they went up again.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR

What next ? One man crews?

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>
> They ran a CWLBT 29 combo of 3 trains on
> 01-Sep-2021 as a 2+3+3+1 with
> 0-426-10210-23679’.
>
> I’m not sure this is going to be common place,
> but I can see more of these running between
> specific locations — namely, in/around Nebraska
> where empties from various locations converge —
> and/or when circumstances allow.

I wonder if they use a souped up repeater to keep the end of train DPU in signal range?

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Bob3985 Wrote:
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> A friend of mine forwarded and email from an
> engineer friend of his from Marysville.
> It seems this gentleman wascalled for a westbound
> coal train empties with 9 units, 429 cars and
> 23,000 feet long.
> What next????

Did he say which crew he was on?  We heard it took 3 crews over one crew district.

Hadn’t heard about this one yet. I’m sure the company line will be “All is well, move along, nothing to see here.”

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 Did he say which crew he was on?  We heard it  took 3 crews over one crew district.

I am not sure. I got this information second hand. I am trying to find out the train symbol.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY

>>>>>  Just imagine sitting at a crossing waiting for that thing to pass.  You could darn near run out of gas.  That is 4.35 miles long.  Good greif.

But just think how much you could get done on your smart phone while all those hoppers go past.