Western Railroad Discussion > UP derailment , Santa Fe Jct, K C Mo

Those who have  a cam  virtual railfan  for this area can watch  video at 4: 53 PM and hear the derailment and the train go in emergency.  About 6 cars involved.  It appears a couple of lumber spine cars may be the cause.

I believe this to be the second such derailment caught on the Sante Fe Jct webcam.

Marty Harrison
Knob Noster, MO

Looks like a string line.

x9000 Wrote:
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> Looks like a string line.
In a string line they would have derailed to the inside of the curve not the outside

On the second Camera at the Jct.

It caught the derailment as it was happening live. at the 4:52 CST mark.

 

Jerry Martin
Los Angeles, CA
Central Coast Railroad Festival

Just before the derailment became visible there was a loud bang to the left (east). When the first empty lumber rack came into view, it sure looks as though its lead truck is turned almost 90 degrees to the rail. Is there a switch just out of view?

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The spine car hit the bridge, bending the car in half, probably some damage to the bridge.

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There are a couple of switches just to east.
Maybe one of the trucks picked the switch. 
The loud bang maybe the centerbeam or hopper
sideswiping a bridge support beam. Just before tipping over?
Looking at google earth mapping. There are might be a signal
and a flange greaser. And other stationary objects at that spot.


Kansas City JCT

raildog Wrote:
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> Just before the derailment became visible there
> was a loud bang to the left (east). When the first
> empty lumber rack came into view, it sure looks as
> though its lead truck is turned almost 90 degrees
> to the rail. Is there a switch just out of view?

Jerry Martin
Los Angeles, CA
Central Coast Railroad Festival



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Pay attention to that center beam against the hopper as it comes into view and you can watch it lift. Looks like a DP was shoving on it.

Well, if you listen at the time of the incident it took a long time for the train to go into emergency, many
seconds after the initial impact sounds. 

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/22 21:42 by callum_out.

They have it highlighted on a YT Video:Derailment at Santa Fe Junction Caught on Cam!12,255 views • Feb 2, 2022 •

It looks every bit the definition of a train wreck, almost took out the roadway overhead as well, cenrebeam was hanging off the crossbeam for a moment.

Check out the guy plowing snow with his headphones on at the very end of the clip.



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Warning:  Foamer opinion only - no prior experience working for a railroad.

Definitely seems like the DPU was pushing too hard - notice the train was quite bunched up going around the curve, and the speed seemed higher than normal.  

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFLJvpwm52Q

I too thought the speed looked a bit on the high side. If you look at the handrails on the bridge above where the car hits underneath, there is no movement at all, so hopefully no damage. An incredible catch of thirty to fifty ton cars lifting into the air, just amazing. 
JB

They almost have it cleared now.  That bridge showed incredible strength, cars were like toys coming up against it.   Andi it appears UP ran a coal train on the elevated section shortly afterwards, could have been much worse. 

Coal train stopped and backed off the bridge.

memphisfreight Wrote:
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> And it appears UP ran a
> coal train on the elevated section shortly
> afterwards, could have been much worse. 

So as I mentioned it seemed like a long time for the train to go into emergency after the initial "bang", if the train
hed remotes they would not have dropped load until the line drop signalled the emergency application. It did
sound like the wreck continued to occur as the train slowed.

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That inital bang was the slack running into the cars. The train was using a 90degree quadrant to the multi-track crossing taking it from a northwest heading to a northeast heading. Not sure which line the train was coming  off of or where it was heading too though.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/03/22 07:52 by funnelfan.