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How did Doyle's PA get to spencer? Under its own power? Routing? Any train with it? Did Doyle engineer it?

OKTrainboys Wrote:
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> How did Doyle's PA get to spencer? Under its own
> power? Routing? Any train with it? Did Doyle
> engineer it?

As has been posted/explained many, many times, there are no cables YET between the main electrical cabinet and the traction motors. BNSF Ry handled the 190 "dead-in-tow" right behind the motive power on two different trains from Portland to Chicago. Doyle followed along in his pick-up truck, to make sure everything went OK for the first 3 or 4 days out of Portland. Once the 190 was placed behind the road power on a stack train, Doyle drove past Minneapolis to our house in the Chicago area.

Amazing Jack, sorry, but I did not see the info posted here, and I only monitor steam web sites....knew someone here knew the story...just as we'll be from you....THANK YOU!!

OKTrainboys Wrote:
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> Amazing Jack, sorry, but I did not see the info
> posted here, and I only monitor steam web
> sites.

This is one time you should go over to the "Eastern Railroads" board and view all the fantastic photos of the Streamliners Gathering at Historic Spencer Shops.

I second that, Jack. Never thought I would get excited about diesels, but that Spencer event is really something special.

I would love to see the PA enroute back so I hope someone will be posting about that. I'm in the Chicago area.

filmteknik Wrote:
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> I would love to see the PA enroute back so I hope
> someone will be posting about that. I'm in the
> Chicago area.


Well, for what it's worth, I live in the Chicago area also, and Doyle and I went out to the Illinois Railway Museum on Sunday May 18th. Even though Doyle has his GPS unit in the cab of 190, we still missed the darned thing inbound on BNSF to Clyde Yard that Sunday evening! Trying to actually see her westbound might be just as difficult.

The PA and Soo 2500 I would image will both be on the same BNSF train between Chicago and the Twin Cities before going separate ways.

SooLine700 Wrote:
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> The PA and Soo 2500 I would image will both be on
> the same BNSF train between Chicago and the Twin
> Cities before going separate ways.

I thought that CPR delivered the Soo Line unit to Chicago. Thus, I would assume that CPR will take it back north to the Twin Cities.

Nope. The LSRM received a free move from the BNSF for the Soo 2500. Their has always been good cooperation between the two.

HotWater Wrote:
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> SooLine700 Wrote:
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> > The PA and Soo 2500 I would image will both be
> on
> > the same BNSF train between Chicago and the
> Twin
> > Cities before going separate ways.
>
> I thought that CPR delivered the Soo Line unit to
> Chicago. Thus, I would assume that CPR will take
> it back north to the Twin Cities.

For those interested, NKP190 is currently northbound out of Portsmouth, OH, enroute to Bellevue. She will then go through Fort Wayne, where two units will be dropped off there, then continue on to Chicago (Calumet Yard). The SOO Line unit and the NKP190 will be interchanged to the BNSF (how, when and where is unknown as yet), while the CB&Q E5, C&NW F unit, and an ALCO will be transferred to the UP for their return to IRM.

Photo op in Fort Wayne? PA 190 and NKP 765.

nycman Wrote:
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> Photo op in Fort Wayne? PA 190 and NKP 765.


Probably not.

HotWater Wrote:
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> nycman Wrote:
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> > Photo op in Fort Wayne? PA 190 and NKP 765.
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>
> Probably not.

How sad. What a missed opportunity that will be.
Yeah, I know ....it would probably cost too much,
and mess up various schedules. Sigh.....

Which trucks are under the PA? Are they off an Erie-built and if so is it known which one? (Not that they could not have been swapped around during that unit's life.)

NKP 190's trucks are indeed from one of several ex-PRR Erie-built "B" units which had been acquired by Canadian Pacific and used for power plants for a continuous welded rail train. Doyle located and acquired three pairs of trucks that were in Smiths Falls, Ontario, at the Canadian Pacific Railroad's parts depot there. The trucks are essentially the same as the trucks the PAs were built with, but there are some minor visual differences.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/03/14 20:52 by davew833.

Thanks. Per the Sweetland book, there were four, being:

PRR 9460B
PRR 9462B
PRR 9474B
PRR 9476B

Built 1947 (first two), 1948 (second two).