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Steam & Excursion > Shooting 844Date: 03/21/18 03:41 Shooting 844 Author: MaryMcPherson We were at Pacific, Missouri, on October 18, 2016, and were preparing to shoot U.P. 844 on its way to Memphis. We went up to a park on the bluffs above town, just to see if there was a good vantage point to get a high and distant view. Not really as it turned out, but the display struck us as amusing as were preparing to "shoot" an engine. That's Kurt Jensen, whose work features prominently in many of the videos I post, joining in with the corny humor.
The next morning, the locomotive was headed down the Chester Subdivision near Rockwood after making its service stop at Chester, Illinois. Kurt took the photo. Mary McPherson Dongola, IL Diverging Clear Productions Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/18 04:39 by MaryMcPherson. Date: 03/21/18 05:28 Re: Shooting 844 Author: bankshotone Man, I just can't get used to the mars light being gone!
Date: 03/21/18 05:30 Re: Shooting 844 Author: MaryMcPherson bankshotone Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Man, I just can't get used to the mars light being > gone! Does look a little bald, doesn't it? Mary McPherson Dongola, IL Diverging Clear Productions Date: 03/21/18 05:33 Re: Shooting 844 Author: bankshotone MaryMcPherson Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > bankshotone Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Man, I just can't get used to the mars light > being > > gone! > > > Does look a little bald, doesn't it? It is certainly different, just looks like something missing. Date: 03/21/18 07:04 Re: Shooting 844 Author: JMT-844-97 bankshotone Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > MaryMcPherson Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > bankshotone Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Man, I just can't get used to the mars light > > being > > > gone! > > > > > > Does look a little bald, doesn't it? > > It is certainly different, just looks like > something missing. I like the look, especially with the darkened smoke box. Date: 03/21/18 07:27 Re: Shooting 844 Author: PennsyE6 Im glad the mars light is gone.
Date: 03/21/18 07:37 Re: Shooting 844 Author: sgriggs JMT-844-97 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > bankshotone Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > MaryMcPherson Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > bankshotone Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > Man, I just can't get used to the mars > light > > > being > > > > gone! > > > > > > > > > Does look a little bald, doesn't it? > > > > It is certainly different, just looks like > > something missing. > > I like the look, especially with the darkened > smoke box. Me too. The darkened smokebox looks much better than the silver paint used in the early excursion service days. Scott Griggs Louisville, KY Date: 03/21/18 10:20 Re: Shooting 844 Author: Frisco1522 There's a scenic overlook at the east end of Pacific, just east of the Silica sand plant that would have been a good spot to shoot video. At least I think it would. They reopened it about 3 years ago and it looks like the trees are gone. Used to be a good spot to shoot trains way back before long lenses.
I think you guys shot from around the silica plant. That's the morning I got the bath and the bird. Date: 03/21/18 10:32 Re: Shooting 844 Author: BAB Ok so with all of the glad its gone posts, what was on it in service? Bob K the answer is>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>?
Doesn't matter to me one way or another but all of those who jump at any chance to say its not done right here goes. Date: 03/21/18 11:51 Re: Shooting 844 Author: MaryMcPherson Frisco1522 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > There's a scenic overlook at the east end of > Pacific, just east of the Silica sand plant that > would have been a good spot to shoot video. At > least I think it would. They reopened it about 3 > years ago and it looks like the trees are gone. > Used to be a good spot to shoot trains way back > before long lenses. > I think you guys shot from around the silica > plant. That's the morning I got the bath and the > bird. Yes, your B&B was visible on my video. Mary McPherson Dongola, IL Diverging Clear Productions Date: 03/21/18 15:10 Re: Shooting 844 Author: sgriggs BAB Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Ok so with all of the glad its gone posts, what > was on it in service? Bob K the answer > is>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>? > Doesn't matter to me one way or another but all of > those who jump at any chance to say its not done > right here goes. As built, the 844 did not have a Mars light. I believe UP added them to 800's in the late 1940s. Scott Griggs Louisville, KY Date: 03/21/18 15:28 Re: Shooting 844 Author: MaryMcPherson Very true.
BUT........ The Mars lights came before the elephant ears. Had the smoke flaps gone along with the Mars light, then we could see 844 as built. I know, I know, I know... another whining steam fan! LOL Mary McPherson Dongola, IL Diverging Clear Productions Date: 03/21/18 15:54 Re: Shooting 844 Author: ChrisCampi bankshotone Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Man, I just can't get used to the mars light being > gone! Looks pretty obvious that the shot across her bow took it out. Date: 03/21/18 16:59 Re: Shooting 844 Author: sgriggs MaryMcPherson Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Very true. > > BUT........ > > The Mars lights came before the elephant ears. > Had the smoke flaps gone along with the Mars > light, then we could see 844 as built. I know, I > know, I know... another whining steam fan! LOL What do you make of these? :-) http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/50218/rec/5 ^ First #8, Los Angeles Challenger; 21 cars, 55 MPH. Photographed: near Archer, Wyo., September 2, 1945. The engine is a coal burner on this date. According to "BUILDING UNION PACIFIC 844" by John Bush, this is the earliest known photograph showing the 844 in regular service. http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/50221/rec/7 ^ Train #27, San Francisco Overland Ltd.; 50 MPH. Photographed: near Rock River, Wyo., August 26, 1946. I believe the engine has been converted to burn oil in this photo. Photos from the Otto Perry collection, Denver Public Library Western History Department Scott Griggs Louisville, KY Date: 03/21/18 17:25 Re: Shooting 844 Author: MaryMcPherson A little salt, a little pepper, and those words go down smooth and tasty!
Mary McPherson Dongola, IL Diverging Clear Productions Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/18 17:26 by MaryMcPherson. Date: 03/21/18 20:06 Re: Shooting 844 Author: up3985 If you want an as built appearance, you'd have to go back to the original feedwater heater arrangement. I prefer the mars light because it's one of 844s most iconic features, it's basically been on since the beginning, and it's a safety device (old but useful).
Date: 03/21/18 20:59 Re: Shooting 844 Author: MaryMcPherson My only hesitancy to the current appearance was the belief it never looked that way in service. Well, that objection has been quashed. Highball! Being used to seeing it with the Mars light my whole life, it does take some getting used to. That said, I can learn to love it!
Mary McPherson Dongola, IL Diverging Clear Productions Date: 03/22/18 07:08 Re: Shooting 844 Author: BAB Well I asked Mary and got very pleasant responses from all and lets just kind of put my question to rest with, GLAD ITS RUNNING again and we can enjoy her. Boyd in Chiloquin waiting for more, yes more snow.
Date: 03/22/18 07:52 Re: Shooting 844 Author: HotWater MaryMcPherson Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > My only hesitancy to the current appearance was > the belief it never looked that way in service. > Well, that objection has been quashed. No, not "quashed", since the FEF-2 and FEF-3 class engines did receive the red Mars Signal Light up-grade, some time in the mid to late 1940s. However, 844 did not receive the up-grade to the Worthington type S Feedwater Heater system until the early to mid 1950s. Thus, all her late years of "regular service" as well as most all of her "excursion service" career, she had the red Mars Signal Light. That means that her current appearance no longer reflects her "in service" appearance. Highball! > Being used to seeing it with the Mars light my > whole life, it does take some getting used to. > That said, I can learn to love it! Date: 03/22/18 11:36 Re: Shooting 844 Author: Realist The silver smokebox and firebox went away in the late '80s, along with a lot of the other non-service baubles it had acquired during the '60s and '70s.
The effort now seems to be focused on polished parts it never had in service, nearly black smokebox and firebox and on super-shiny, spick and span cleanliness. |