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Date: 12/03/18 02:24
Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: LoggerHogger

Here is a test to see who knows their stuff. 

I have posted 2 photos of clearly 2 different types of steam locomotives.  In appearance and workings these 2 engines could hardly be more different.  However, who can tell us what these 2 locomotives had in common?  Both of these photos were taken in 1954.

Good Luck.

Martin



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/03/18 02:28 by LoggerHogger.






Date: 12/03/18 05:53
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: GPutz

I'll guess both are standard gauge oil burners of the Milwaukee Road in Washington state.  Gerry



Date: 12/03/18 06:09
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: LoggerHogger

Gerry,

While both are standard gauge - that is not what they have in common that makes them unique. 

Martin



Date: 12/03/18 06:22
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: McCloud25

With the year listed, I suspect both were restored back to operation for a movie. Maybe both in Montana as that is where the Willamette is and the 2-8-0 looks like its at Deer Lodge. The Willamette was used in a movie called “Timber Jack” which was released the next year. Can’t find a movie for the 1220.

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Date: 12/03/18 06:35
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: LoggerHogger

Sorry Brandon, that is not it.

MILW #1220 was never in a movie.  You are getting warm though, on what they both have in common.

Martin



Date: 12/03/18 11:10
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: spnudge

Tenders?  (without the gears)

Nudge



Date: 12/03/18 11:13
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: LoggerHogger

Nope

Martin



Date: 12/03/18 11:51
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: CPengineer

I would've guessed movie work as well, seeing that the 2-8-0 is under wires perhaps far away from her 'home" territory (MILW steam ran under wires for Danger Lights).  She looks to be in transit for some reason (scrapping, perhaps?).  Were they both sold to the same scrap dealer?



Date: 12/03/18 11:57
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: pe1624

I seem to recall that this Willamette was the only one built to burn coal, so my guess is that they are both coal burners.



Date: 12/03/18 11:58
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: HotWater

pe1624 Wrote:
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> I seem to recall that this Willamette was the only
> one built to burn coal, so my guess is that they
> are both coal burners.

The 2-8-0 appears to have an oil fuel tender.



Date: 12/03/18 12:03
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: LoggerHogger

The fact that they burned coal is not the important thing they had in common.

Martin



Date: 12/03/18 12:18
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: LarryDoyle

These facts don't tie them together that I can see, but may be clues to what Martin is thinking.  1220 was built by Alco Brooks in December 1912, scrapped Dec. 1954.. Ecccentric has been removed in photo, probably for move to scrapyard.  The switchstand behind the Willamette definitely puts the rails under it as being owned by the Milwaukee.  As far as I know, Milwaukee never owned a Willamette, but did own two Shays (aquired with the purchase of a short line) which were gone decades before these pictures.

Other than that, I'm stumped.

-LD



Date: 12/03/18 12:23
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: LoggerHogger

LD is getting close.

Martin



Date: 12/03/18 12:27
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: callum_out

The two locomotives are the last use of steam on their respective lines?

Out



Date: 12/03/18 12:35
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: LoggerHogger

Nope

Martin

 



Date: 12/03/18 12:37
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: PHall

You ran them Martin?



Date: 12/03/18 13:01
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: LoggerHogger

PHall Wrote:
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> You ran them Martin?

I wish.

Martin



Date: 12/03/18 13:38
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: LarryIngold

I would guess that they are both on Milwaukee Road rails, with the # 7 on the original Big Blackfoot Railway which was sold to the Milwaukee Road about 1910.   The photo of # 7 is a few miles east (up the Blackfoot River) from Bonner where the mill was (is) located.  The Willamette # 7 still exists and is on display at Fort Missoulia. 



Date: 12/03/18 13:41
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: LoggerHogger

Well done Larry.

Yes, both of these very diverse locomotives operated on the Big Blackfoot Railway out of Bonner, Montana.  This line was taken over by the Milwauikee Railroad in 1915.

Milwaukee #1220 worked the line for many years as did sister engine #1246.  Willamette #7 also ran her log trains on the Big Blackfoot Railway until she was retired in the late 1940's.  #7 was taken out of retirement to star in the movie "Timberjack" in 1954.  She is likely operating in that roll in the photo I have posted of her.

To see both of these locomotives operating on this remote and scenic branch must have been something.  Talk about an odd pairing.

Martin



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Date: 12/03/18 13:59
Re: Two Very Different Locomotives, But With One Thing In Common!
Author: crackerjackhoghead

Can't say where it is today but, as of 10 or 15 years ago, that 1920's Fairmont M19B was still around.






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