Steam & Excursion > UP Pics 4014 Air Brake System/Cold Water Turbine

These photos were just posted by Union Pacific on its official "Steam Club" Facebook page.

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More progress. That is good as time is flying.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY

Do you think they’re going to make it Bob?

Posted from iPhone

Interesting to note that they have kept the original No. 8 brakestand, and did not substtute a 26C as has been done on so many other preserved/restored steam locomotives. This tells me that UP must have a stock of spare parts for the 8ET brake equipment, because these parts are pretty much unobtainable on the open market (WABCO stopped making them in the early 1960s, IIRC). Also, I take issue with the UP saying that the pictures are of the "brake system". Sorry, no.The brakestand shown is less than half of the full brake system, which also includes the air compressors, distributing valve, brake cylinders, etc. When I worked for WABCO/WABTEC, we were always cautioned to refer to "WABCO Brake Equipment", because what we supplied did not necessarily include many smaller accessory parts such as check valves, cutout cocks, hoses, etc., which were often obtained independently by the locomotive/car builders, so if we referred to a "WABCO Brake System" any legal eagle would take that as accepting responsibility for all parts, even if we had not supplied them.

Roger Lewis (airbrakegeezer)

That’s so cute, all the little handles painted red....
Irregardless of the function or fluid/gas being controlled.... everything is so cute-sy red.
To identify all the handles from other do-dads....?

Maybe a red whistle cord?  

W.

 

wcamp1472 Wrote:
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> That’s so cute, all the little handles painted
> red....
> Irregardless of the function or fluid/gas being
> controlled.... everything is so cute-sy red.
> To identify all the handles from other
> do-dads....?
>
> Maybe a red whistle cord?  
>
> W.
>
>  

I’m not sure this is a “cute” deviation from common steam era practice. Isn’t that the way the locomotives were delivered from Alco?

Posted from iPhone

Wonder if they painted all the insides of the air brake equipment, has was done with 844's air brake equipment?

As long as it smokes and makes noise.......

HotWater Wrote:
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> Wonder if they painted all the insides of the air
> brake equipment, has was done with 844's air brake
> equipment?

Also looks like there’s still no insulation in the cab. As you have pointed out, it could be possible they won’t bother covering up that portion of the boiler. Would it even be feasible to go back and apply jacketing in the cab at this point?

Maybe not a great comparison, but 6 years ago when I flew in the local Museums B-25
you have to grab the YELLOW handles as you climb to the interior and avoid the RED ones.  Just me and the 3 crew members for that flight, and no
airport terminals to deal with :). Most handles in steam I have seen are brass or just worn down to the metal!
Greg Scholl
sgriggs Wrote:
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> wcamp1472 Wrote:
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> > That’s so cute, all the little handles
> painted
> > red....
> > Irregardless of the function or fluid/gas being
> > controlled.... everything is so cute-sy red.
> > To identify all the handles from other
> > do-dads....?
> >
> > Maybe a red whistle cord?  
> >
> > W.
> >
> >  
>
> I’m not sure this is a “cute” deviation from
> common steam era practice. Isn’t that the way
> the locomotives were delivered from Alco?
>
> Posted from iPhone

Doesnt every seem to matter all of  the negative commenst show up nothing every changes on here.

When I first started as a fireman (diesel) and the engineers let me run, I had to keep a flashlight between my legs to find stuff in the dark until I got more comfortable with the cab layout. I think red handles are a good idea on that prehistoric brake & control stand for locating stuff fast in in poor light. They'll figure it out by the time the paint wears off.

Posted from Android

I look forward to all the people trackside yelling in anger about the red handles in the cab being historically inaccurate. I'm sure their roar will drown out the sound from the locomotive itself.

Doesn't matter if you're color blind!

Is that plunger button mounted on the cab wall the button for the horn? lol

kurt765 Wrote:
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> I look forward to all the people trackside yelling
> in anger about the red handles in the cab being
> historically inaccurate. I'm sure their roar will
> drown out the sound from the locomotive itself.

You win the comment of the day!!!

I'm pretty sure the assembled masses will also be quite upset with the crew wearing safety vests, since no steam crew in antiquity ever did anything like that!!
 

SP4360 Wrote:
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> Is that plunger button mounted on the cab wall the
> button for the horn? lol

ATS acknowlege button??

PHall Wrote:
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> SP4360 Wrote:
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> > Is that plunger button mounted on the cab wall
> the
> > button for the horn? lol
>
> ATS acknowlege button??

Yes. The acknowledge button for the UP Cab Signal system as well as the C&NW ATC. 

kurt765 Wrote:
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> I look forward to all the people trackside yelling
> in anger about the red handles in the cab being
> historically inaccurate. I'm sure their roar will
> drown out the sound from the locomotive itself.

Yes the roar of the diesel(s) pushing 4014 down the track :-)

Posted from iPhone

With regard to the second photo, which is looking down upon the brake handles, is that honeycomb /egg-crate tan colored material /object behind the brake handles part of the insulation?