Steam & Excursion > SP KLM 4000 9010 Photo Runby

In Niles Canyon this morning.

Chris

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That is definitely a unique locomotive and I am glad it was restored.  I look forward to seeing and riding behind it sometime.

Is this part of the niles canyon railroad or the Museums?

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It was a special Railfan Trip by the Niles Canyon Railroad.

Chris

Is that a fully-functional, “powering” diesel-hydraulic , or a rolling (engine-less), non-powered ‘dummy’?
If it is fully functioning, with an original, operational prime mover, then that’s a REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT!!!

A much harder accomplishment than a comparable restoration of a complex steamer!

Wes Camp

( Wouldn’t tne post be more correctly titled as a “K-M” ( Krauss-Maffei) manufactured locomotive?)



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wcamp1472 Wrote:
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> Is that a fully-functional, “powering”
> diesel-hydraulic , or a rolling (engine-less),
> non-powered ‘dummy’?
> If it is fully functioning, with an original,
> operational prime mover, then that’s a
> REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT!!!
>
> A much harder accomplishment than a comparable
> restoration of a complex steamer!

I definitely agree with that.

> Wes Camp
>
> ( Wouldn’t tne post be more correctly titled as
> a “K-M” ( Krauss-Maffei) manufactured
> locomotive?)
 

wcamp1472 Wrote:

> Is that a fully-functional, “powering”
> diesel-hydraulic , or a rolling (engine-less),
> non-powered ‘dummy’?
> If it is fully functioning, with an original,
> operational prime mover, then that’s a
> REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT!!!

According to another recent thread, for the moment it's a dummy, but only because the one restorable prime mover (which runs but was spitting oil) is out for a rebuild:

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,4831547

That’s great news—- But, most dismals are like that.  They’re good at ‘spitting oil ...’
When it all comes together, that’ll be quite an accomplishment....

I gather that the ‘pieces’  (many one-of-a-kind) magically came together ...from around the world..

That could make a great story..
Congratulations are in order...

W.

I have a few questions concerning the various diesel hydraulic units owned by the SP:

1) How many of the actual K-M units, (which were manufactured in Germany?) did the SP eventually own? I seem to remember that the SP purchased the ones that the D&RGW had for awhile.

2) How many diesel hydraulic units did the SP purchase from/through Alco? I assume those Alco units had an Alco prime mover.

3) The beautifully restored unit in the above photo, is one of the "original" K-M units with the Germany diesel prime movers? Is it one of the "original" SP units, or one from the D&RGW?

Thanks.

HotWater Wrote:
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> I have a few questions concerning the various
> diesel hydraulic units owned by the SP:
>
> 1) How many of the actual K-M units, (which were
> manufactured in Germany?) did the SP eventually
> own? I seem to remember that the SP purchased the
> ones that the D&RGW had for awhile.

21 (3 cab units from DRGW, 3 cab and 15 new) - KM ML4000 

> 2) How many diesel hydraulic units did the SP
> purchase from/through Alco? I assume those Alco
> units had an Alco prime mover.

3 -  Alco DH643

> 3) The beautifully restored unit in the above
> photo, is one of the "original" K-M units with the
> Germany diesel prime movers? Is it one of the
> "original" SP units, or one from the D&RGW?

One of the original SP units - the DRGW units were all full cowl units (like an F unit) - SP 9010 website

BTW all this info was found with about a minute worth of searching - the World-wide-web is truly an amazing tool!

Beyond beautiful.  It even has KM builders plates,  recasts I assume.  What an incredible restoration.

rbenko Wrote:
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> HotWater Wrote:
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> > I have a few questions concerning the various
> > diesel hydraulic units owned by the SP:
> >
> > 1) How many of the actual K-M units, (which
> were
> > manufactured in Germany?) did the SP eventually
> > own? I seem to remember that the SP purchased
> the
> > ones that the D&RGW had for awhile.
>
> 21 (3 cab units from DRGW, 3 cab and 15 new) - KM
> ML4000 
>
> > 2) How many diesel hydraulic units did the SP
> > purchase from/through Alco? I assume those Alco
> > units had an Alco prime mover.
>
> 3 -  Alco DH643
>
> > 3) The beautifully restored unit in the above
> > photo, is one of the "original" K-M units with
> the
> > Germany diesel prime movers? Is it one of the
> > "original" SP units, or one from the D&RGW?
>
> One of the original SP units - the DRGW units were
> all full cowl units (like an F unit) - SP 9010
> website
>
> BTW all this info was found with about a minute
> worth of searching - the World-wide-web is truly
> an amazing tool!

Thank you. I posted those questions here, so that other folks, that may be as uninformed as I about those units, would also see the answers.

HotWater Wrote:
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> Thank you. I posted those questions here, so that
> other folks, that may be as uninformed as I about
> those units, would also see the answers.

No worries - glad to help!  It's actually nice to know the answers to a few questions that people ask here on TO - usually it's the other way around for me, especially when it comes to steam subjects.  You and several others on this board are the undisputed masters here of first-hand steam knowledge, and willingly share much of your expertise with the faithful, which I greatly appreciate.  I just mentioned the part about the web to remind all that many answers can be quickly had with just a few keystrokes.  However, I do agree it is nice to have it all in one place, especially with that place being TO!!

Shot at Niles in 2014.  Wish I could remember the name of the gentleman who was working on the 9010 at the time.  This is a truly special restoration.

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ooof!! Don't stare at that image too long - it'll make you cross-eyed!!

Agreed about the organization - I am proud to be a monetary contributer to this incredible restoration, and have followed the progress of it for many years via the internet.  I hope to see it sometime live, if I can drag myself to the west coast!  Keep up the great work!!  

nycman Wrote:
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> Shot at Niles in 2014.  Wish I could remember the
> name of the gentleman who was working on the 9010
> at the time.  This is a truly special
> restoration.

That would be Howard Wise.

wcamp1472 Wrote:

> That could make a great story..

Bob Zenk wrote a book about SP's K-M's in 2014 that included the first phase of 9010's restoration:

http://sp9010.ncry.org/book.html

I understand it's now out-of-print.  Any hope of an updated second edition, Notch16?