Steam & Excursion > #4014 to Pull Freight Across Kansas?

There are rumors that, when it reaches Topeka, #4014 is going to ditch the passenger cars and procede across Kansas pulling freight cars.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/19 09:35 by MSE.

BTW, it's the UP 4014 and not 4104.
I believe that may not be true if they are taking the experience car with them across the rest of Kansas.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/19 09:31 by Bob3985.

Thank you. I've made a correction as to the number. 

Looks like they have cut off most of the passenger equipment in KC.  One of the volunteers on the Experience  UP car told me he was planning to leave the train in Kansas City "where the tour ends" and come home to Omaha.  I see no exhibits are scheduled on the KP portion.

JB - Omaha

UP took both Challenger and Experience along with the support cars. The other cars were left at Kansas City for move to Omaha.
Just over 5000 thru Experience yesterday. No idea how many other folks showed up. But was crowded all day.
End of my UP stuff for the year. I wanna thank the senior UP management for allowing all of this to happen. And thanks to Sean Mocynski and Dave Seidel for putting our group together.

Now back to playing tourist and seeing relatives and friends.

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Well if the rumor was true, then the freight cars will be empty

Draft and braking, wouldn't hurt to pull some real revenue, even with service stops and overnight the train
would still beat most merch traffice these days.

Out

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Tonnage is tonnage. 

For the sake of the small magical group here, I really hope they do not haul any freight cars.  Just quietly go home to Cheyenne 

I noticed some piston rod leakage on the front engine in some of the videos, give them something to do this Winter,
that and reinsulate and heat the facility.

Out



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/19 12:01 by callum_out.

I don't know if it would be related to hauling some freight cars or not, but the schedule has changed slightly. They dropped the Tuesday layover in Denver, so next Tuesday it will head home, as opposed to next Wednesday.
~wko

10 covered hoppers added at topeka for braking

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Cars looked and sounded loaded 

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Interesting. How does a nice new covered hopper, that is loaded, look different from when it is empty?

Those hoppers may be empty.  The springs on the trucks do not appear to be compressed.

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have you ever watched a train track side? 

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Sure have! I generally look at the springs in the truck. Absolutely NOTHING about the appearance of the car, nor the sound of the car, has EVER indicated whether empty or loaded. Then again it is also helpful to look at the manifest list.

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> indicated whether empty or loaded. Then again it
> is also helpful to look at the manifest list.

So then you can tell whether or not these cars are loaded. 

also - how does an empty coal train not sound different than a loaded coal train? 

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> different than a loaded coal train? 

I have not found ANY differences on sound between an empty hopper train and a loaded coal train, especially on CWR.

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> > > indicated whether empty or loaded. Then again
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> > > is also helpful to look at the manifest list.
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> are
> > loaded. 
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> > also - how does an empty coal train not sound
> > different than a loaded coal train? 
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> I have not found ANY differences on sound between
> an empty hopper train and a loaded coal train,
> especially on CWR.

Wow. Maybe you should get trackside more!

And in looking at another video - looks like I was wrong, the cars appear empty.