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Date: 11/25/22 10:35
Sacramento Northern 653
Author: refarkas

Bill Cheeks photographed Sacramento Northern 653 at the Orange Empire Trolley Museum in Perris, California in December 1978.
Bob




Date: 11/25/22 13:31
Re: Sacramento Northern 653
Author: CPR_4000

Interesting that it has a pan and a trolley pole. Is there a reason?



Date: 11/25/22 15:08
Re: Sacramento Northern 653
Author: PHall

CPR_4000 Wrote:
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> Interesting that it has a pan and a trolley pole.
> Is there a reason?

SN used both on different parts of the system. The panograph was what was normally used. This unit had also been equipped with third rail shoes too, but they were removed after the third rail was taken out of service.



Date: 11/25/22 17:23
Re: Sacramento Northern 653
Author: callum_out

In model form I use the pantograph because the pole won't stay on our overhead wire!

Out 



Date: 11/25/22 17:47
Re: Sacramento Northern 653
Author: PHall

callum_out Wrote:
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> In model form I use the pantograph because the
> pole won't stay on our overhead wire!
>
> Out 

Not to mention that you can reverse without having to deal with changing poles.



Date: 11/25/22 18:23
Re: Sacramento Northern 653
Author: callum_out

That's true. I'm sure the O scale model mimics a lot of the prototype but the pantograph sure seems
easier to use than a pole would have been. 

Out 



Date: 11/27/22 21:24
Re: Sacramento Northern 653
Author: Pig-Mauler

CPR_4000 Wrote:
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> Interesting that it has a pan and a trolley pole.
> Is there a reason?

Because the pan is raised by air pressure, the pole, which is raised by spring pressure, is used to pump up the air when the engine is cold. The pan is then raised for running.



Date: 11/28/22 09:44
Re: Sacramento Northern 653
Author: M-636

Like 654, I believe 653's pan was broken for a period of time, and was operated as needed with the pole.



Date: 11/28/22 11:15
Re: Sacramento Northern 653
Author: Pig-Mauler

When I was active at OERM, the pole was used because the overhead wire hangers were set up for trolley poles. It was a few years later that it was changed to allow pantograph operation for 653 and Key System 167.



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