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Date: 09/27/23 18:42
The Shay and the Decapod
Author: kevink

Not sure where else you can find a Shay and Decapod but last Saturday 9/23/23 it was possible at the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, IL. J. Neils Lumber #5 was pulling a train of three cabooses while Frisco 1630 had the honor of leading a three-car passenger train. I put together this video of both trains. 
Scene 1- the Shay leads its train over Olson Road
Scene 2 - on it next run, entering one of the depot tracks. 
Scene 3 - Frisco 1630 pulling into the depot
Scene 4 - the caboose train one more time
 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/29/23 05:06 by kevink.

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Date: 09/27/23 18:42
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: kevink

Photos of the vintage cabooses:
1. CGW 601
2. UP 3786
3. MILW 01984



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/27/23 18:53 by kevink.








Date: 09/27/23 18:43
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: kevink

The passenger train cars:
1. Bessemer 25
2. Lackawana 556
3.  DM&IR 84
Sharp looking train!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/27/23 19:00 by kevink.








Date: 09/27/23 18:43
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: kevink

And some photos of J. Neils #5



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/27/23 19:04 by kevink.






Date: 09/27/23 21:40
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: callum_out

That 50 mph track was perfect for the Shay.

Out 



Date: 09/27/23 21:46
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: WP921

In some of those video sequences, that shay was really moving - for a shay.  I don't think I've ever seen a shay go that fast.  Most I've seen were moving at 7 mph or less.



Date: 09/28/23 05:35
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: Lighter

> Scene 2 - on it next run, entering one of the
> depot tracks. 

What are those white circle signals? I don't recall seeing any like that.



Date: 09/28/23 06:46
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: Frisco1522

The OCD in me has always wondered why the CGW logo looked "out of register" with the inner circle off center.



Date: 09/28/23 12:00
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: Earlk

#5 is an interesting beast.  The piston valve cylinders tell me it is a "Pacific Coast" model, but the cutaway front on the cab belies that.  Was it a special order? Did the owners "hot rod" #5 with aftermarket piston valve cylinders?  Without the pisotn valves #5 appears to be a basic modern 70-tonner.

Inquiring Shay Geeks want to know.....



Date: 09/28/23 13:20
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: HotWater

Earlk Wrote:
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> #5 is an interesting beast.  The piston valve
> cylinders tell me it is a "Pacific Coast" model,
> but the cutaway front on the cab belies that. 
> Was it a special order? Did the owners "hot rod"
> #5 with aftermarket piston valve cylinders? 
> Without the pisotn valves #5 appears to be a basic
> modern 70-tonner.
>
> Inquiring Shay Geeks want to know.....

I visited the Klickatat Lumber operation in 1963. The man that was in charge,a Mr. Norman Elsner, and reportedly owned the two Shay locomotives, #5 and #7. The larger #7 ( a Pacific Coast model) was in service, and he invited me to ride "up the hill" with the empty train. At the top of the long, steep grade, there was the log load-out. After some switching and lunch, we departed back down grade to the mill, and proceeded to dump the logs into the millpond, one car at a time. Great trip, although I never say #5 operate. I'm pretty sure that the late Eliot Donnely purchased the #5 and donated it to the IRM.



Date: 09/28/23 15:11
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: kevink

IRM’s page for #5: https://www.irm.org/player/jnl5/

Page for #1630: https://www.irm.org/player/frisco1630/

Information for much of IRM’s collection:
https://www.irm.org/collection/

Posted from iPhone



Date: 09/28/23 15:36
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: PCRC

Lighter Wrote:
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> What are those white circle signals? I don't
> recall seeing any like that.

GRS Model 2A dwarf disc type.

Presumably from the C&NW Chicago Passenger Terminal.



Date: 09/28/23 17:43
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: run8

Do my 75 year old, tinnitus riddled ears deceive me or does the whistle on  #5 sound like it is  from a CB & Q O5 4-8-4?



Date: 09/29/23 01:58
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: Lighter

> > What are those white circle signals? 
>
> GRS Model 2A dwarf disc type.
>
> Presumably from the C&NW Chicago Passenger
> Terminal.

Thanks.



Date: 09/29/23 10:34
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: Earlk

kevink Wrote:
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> IRM’s page for #5:
> https://www.irm.org/player/jnl5/
>
> Page for #1630:
> https://www.irm.org/player/frisco1630/
>
> Information for much of IRM’s collection:
> https://www.irm.org/collection/
>
> Posted from iPhone

None of which explains why a garden-variety 70 tonner has piston valves.



Date: 09/29/23 10:44
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: kevink

Earlk Wrote:
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>
> None of which explains why a garden-variety 70
> tonner has piston valves.

I bet Martin Hansen knows.



Date: 09/29/23 15:04
Re: The Shay and the Decapod
Author: callum_out

Not to mention that the piston valve arrangement looks pretty store bought. Rear cab radius looks
kinda Pacific Coast wannabe.

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