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Date: 07/23/02 20:06
AFT 4449 or UP 3985?
Author: oktrainboys

OK, The following list is a snapshot of mental images of recent experiences with both. Just thought it would be fun. Which one do you prefer?


AFT 4449 ....... UP 3985

In the driver\'s seat: Doyle, .... Bob


Colors: Red, White, Blue , ..... Black, Lt.Grey

Slippage : No(unfortunately), ..... No(unfortunately)

People : Artrain Society, ..... Ranch Hands

Plants: Roses , .... Cactus

Wildlife: Couple walking dog , .... Rattlesnakes

Eats : Full Menu Resturant,.... Buffalo Ribs,Beans,
Beer

Weather : Cool & Crisp, ..... Tornado Warnings

Pacing Hazards : TV Highway Red Lights ...... 50 Car Jam on US85


Cab Tours : Yes! , ...... Yes!

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Two Steam Locomotives...Alike but yet very different. Which is Cooler? No one really knows for sure. Just thought this list would fall into the spirit of this board. Thanks
OKtrainboys



Date: 07/23/02 20:48
Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985?
Author: nycman

Mike, I\'m sure this isn\'t going to help you decide. I\'m trying to post both photos. If it doesn\'t work there will be a second response.





Date: 07/23/02 21:03
Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985?
Author: oktrainboys

Fitz, Two pictures are worth two thousand MORE words...Thanks for completing the thought!



Date: 07/23/02 21:05
Drivers slip? Oh yeah...
Author: alco636

When the 3985 visited Minnesota this past June, I saw the drivers slip once. Just as Steve Lee pulled her to a stop at Owatonna, MN the rear engine slipped pretty good. Nothing major, but a little excitement. As for the AFT-3985 thing, well I\'ll take the 3985 any day. No offense meant towards the 4449 and crew.



Date: 07/23/02 21:58
Re: Drivers slip? Oh yeah...
Author: CPB284

Hard to pick one over the other..... both are great and we are lucky to have them operating.

I guess I am biased since I haven\'t seen the 4449 in person. So I am going to go with UP 3985.



Date: 07/23/02 22:15
Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985?
Author: samreeves

As much as I do like both, we\'ve been spoiled with two Pacifics of our own. Both sound sweeter than the hoarsecroakers on the Lima or Alco. There\'s something to be said about the rhythm of the exhaust of two Pacifics at the same time.



Date: 07/23/02 22:27
Re: Drivers slip? Oh yeah...
Author: smokebox

My best memory of the 3985 was her last visit to Portland a few years back. The trainset departed Union Station with the E units and met up with the 3985 a few miles down the tracks (3985 is to tight for the curves into the depot). It was raining pretty good that day, and the 3985 had a long train to start up the Gulch line grade. I was amazed at what sounded like a thousand drummers beating and blasting away. It was raw power with a hogger who knew his machine. No, the drivers didn\'t slip, but if they did it would\'ve been one hell of a mess!

As for the 4449, it was ridding in the cab blasting up Napa Vine Hill near Centrailia, WA, with the throttle to the roof, 79mph, with grade crossings at the summit. The sound was just incredible. I hope someday someone will get audio recordings at this location. This is the best location for stack talk between Portland and Seattle. On the flat, 79mph doesn\'t moove the throttle that far back, but this was the only time I\'ve ever seen her big chrome stick so far into the roof!

Nothing better than mainline steam working hard!

Smokebox



Date: 07/24/02 08:26
Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985?
Author: oktrainboys

Testing, Testing 1,2,3,4,8,4...Can you hear me now??





Date: 07/24/02 08:47
Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985?
Author: oktrainboys

Doyle, Are you home? Big is good, but how do I make this pic smaller?
OKtrainboys



Date: 07/24/02 13:52
Oh Boy
Author: Bob3985

Hey OKtrainboys;
Someone has got to keep you out of Caboose Hobbies. I think the Lionel smoke is gettin to yall.

Bob



Date: 07/24/02 14:23
Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985?
Author: nycman

Sam--"hoarsecroakers"--I love it. You\'re right, those passenger whistles sound great. Beautiful pictures of those great Pacifics.



Date: 07/24/02 16:01
Re: Oh Boy
Author: JimPoston

Gee - I thought *I* was the only one out West who still said "y\'all". *S*

(Awright, awright - blame my 20-some years in Florida...)

Jim



Date: 07/24/02 18:28
Re: Oh Boy
Author: ge13031

IF IT\'S STEAM ... YES!

Hats off to the folks with the brass appurtenances that manage to keep these babies movin\' along!



Date: 07/24/02 21:33
Re: Oh Boy
Author: oktrainboys

Caboose hobbies? Lionel train smoke....Uh oh, Mr. Krieger, You\'re on to us!!





Date: 07/24/02 21:37
Re: Oh Boy
Author: oktrainboys

Just a new Dad having big fun with his 4yr old son. Thanks for helping. Now let\'s get back to the issue at hand.





Date: 07/25/02 11:55
Re: Oh Boy
Author: oktrainboys

Awesome, Coming and going...Does anyone know if this sight will accept movie files?





Date: 07/25/02 12:04
Re: Oh Boy
Author: oktrainboys

Lt. Grey and Black?? Looks like we forgot gold.





Date: 07/25/02 14:44
Re: Oh Boy
Author: nycman

Mike, nice shots! Where\'s the 4449? Yes, TO does accept MPEG (movie) files. Go look in the Media Library.



Date: 07/26/02 11:09
Re: Oh Boy
Author: oktrainboys

Left or Right...Hmmm. Now that is one well balanced locomotive. Fitz, have a few more good ones but in retrospect I don\'t have as many as I should. Turns out I was sensory overload....for 3 days!
OKtrainboys





Date: 07/26/02 12:26
Re: Oh Boy
Author: oktrainboys

It\'s kinda like being in a fog....We all know the feeling.





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