Steam & Excursion > Frisco 1352 sold. Again.

Some rumblings on Facebook and other places that the Valley Railroad has sold their recently purchased Frisco 1352. This would be the 3rd sale of the locomotive since being “rescued” in the late 90’s.
It is currently is stuck in Taylorville IL and sorely needs rescued again.

Wasn't this owned by the folks who are restoring the Reading T-1?

CPR_4000 Wrote:
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> Wasn't this owned by the folks who are restoring
> the Reading T-1?

Yes they bought it before they purchased the #2100. It sat for years until the Valley Railroad group bought it last Nov.

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So who bought her this time?  Poor thing needs to be rescued.

Frisco1522 Wrote:
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> So who bought her this time?  Poor thing needs to
> be rescued.

My understanding is that it's making a stop elsewhere in the Midwest for its rebuild, then heading Southeast. The ultimate location will be a huge surprise, outside of the new owner's already obvious willingness to spend money.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/24 10:44 by Worthington_S_A.

Worthington_S_A Wrote:
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> Frisco1522 Wrote:
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> > So who bought her this time?  Poor thing needs
> to
> > be rescued.
>
> My understanding is that it's making a stop
> elsewhere in the Midwest for its rebuild, then
> heading Southeast. The ultimate location will be a
> huge surprise, outside of the new owner's already
> obvious willingness to spend money.

Sounds like it coulda been a Sweet Deal...

Cheers, Dave

Worthington_S_A Wrote:
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> Frisco1522 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So who bought her this time?  Poor thing needs
> to
> > be rescued.
>
> My understanding is that it's making a stop
> elsewhere in the Midwest for its rebuild, then
> heading Southeast. The ultimate location will be a
> huge surprise, outside of the new owner's already
> obvious willingness to spend money.

My guess would be US Sugar. It's interesting we've barely heard a peep about ACL 1504.

SCREAMINGCRYING Wrote:
> My guess would be US Sugar. It's interesting we've
> barely heard a peep about ACL 1504.

Negative. Not quite that far south.

FMW was apparently told to stop work, for the time being, on 1504. If the Sugar Company returns to the concept of two engines, it'll be the one.

Worthington_S_A Wrote:
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> SCREAMINGCRYING Wrote:
> > My guess would be US Sugar. It's interesting
> we've
> > barely heard a peep about ACL 1504.
>
> Negative. Not quite that far south.
>
> FMW was apparently told to stop work, for the time
> being, on 1504. If the Sugar Company returns to
> the concept of two engines, it'll be the one.

Probably nearly 70 years in salt air by the water made restoring 1504 much more costly than they envisioned if I had to guess.

SCREAMINGCRYING Wrote:

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> Probably nearly 70 years in salt air by the water
> made restoring 1504 much more costly than they
> envisioned if I had to guess.

Nothing insurmountable, but the driving boxes, and shoes and wedges, were a coagulated mess that had to be persuaded out of the pedestals.

If the above items were a mess, the axles are a mess,  too.
Got to be very careful on matching the re-surfaced axles to the 
'brass'.... Too often the normal heat-swelling, when 'warming-up 
ruins the lubrication ( too tight, after 'new' bearing gets up to "running temps")

Cold-clearances want to be very liberal, so that, during break-in,  lubrication gets 
coerced to squeeze between the rotating and stationary bearing components..

Durng warm-up pricess, the brass intitially contracts ( tighter) onto 
the axle---- leads to axle heating and, a commensurate ( diametric) swelling-
--further restricting beneficial lubrication.

The lubricant must separate the rotating and stationary bearing components..
any metal-to-metal contact MUST be avoided.   Machining for smooth running 
bearings ALWAYS results in a break-in period, where the two newly machined 
surfaces,  "polish-together" and form a smooth lubricant film to separate the 
running surfaces, during operation.

It can take up to 1,000 miles of revolutions, to break-in newly machined 
plain bearings ---- which is why many brass bearings get babbited
before being matched to the new axle surfaces...

Be cautious ... or they'll make your life miserable.

All of the other axles should NOW be up-graded to rolling-element
bearings, before the loco returns to service...

​W .

 

I hate to hear that about the 1504. That is one engine I always wanted to see run.

Sam