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Date: 02/03/25 08:41
Almost matching pair of Santa Fe Hudsons
Author: WrongWayMurphy

These 8x10 glossy prints from the HK Vollrath files (actual photographer not noted)

3450 and 3452 appear to be very similar save for the bell location.  
I'm sure other differences are evident to those in the know.

Back of 3450 photo says Baldwin 1927.  Richmond CA Feb of '48
Back of 3452 photo says Baldwin 1927.  Kansas City, Kan. Dec of '47



 






Date: 02/03/25 10:27
Re: Almost matching pair of Santa Fe Hudsons
Author: ATSFSuperCap

These two photos show the so called little Hudsons in their final most modernized form.    The 3450 class is largely a sooped up 3400 class Pacific.   They were built as oil burners and used in passenger service.   Even on the east end where coal ruled for steam power ATSF converted passenger power to oil early on like 1930 or so to keep the passenger trains and the passengers cleaner.    In the latter days of steam these were used in California.   Definitely one of the coolest looking of ATSF steam.

Richard.



Date: 02/03/25 11:00
Re: Almost matching pair of Santa Fe Hudsons
Author: PHall

3450 has a "flip over" stack extension to divert the exhaust to the rear. That's why the bell is in front of the stack.
This locomotive was assigned to the Valley Division in California and ran over Tehachapi with it's many tunnels.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/03/25 11:01 by PHall.



Date: 02/03/25 12:09
Re: Almost matching pair of Santa Fe Hudsons
Author: refarkas

Beautiful historic roster shots.
Bob



Date: 02/03/25 12:16
Re: Almost matching pair of Santa Fe Hudsons
Author: timz

What's the flipover stack for -- steam-engine exhaust
damages the tunnel over the years?



Date: 02/03/25 12:20
Re: Almost matching pair of Santa Fe Hudsons
Author: hawkinsun

Nice looking engines.  Looks like different sets of rods on the two.   I wonder which was the newer or prefered style ?   I'd guess those on the 3450 with the I beam style.  I've heard references to Alloy rods, but did they mean alloyed steel, or aluminum ?  Thanks for the photos.

Craig Hanson
Vay, Idaho



Date: 02/03/25 12:41
Re: Almost matching pair of Santa Fe Hudsons
Author: timz

Aluminum rods were pretty rare -- and weren't
they always fat enough to look unusual?

That wouldn't be a tandem rod on 3450, would it?



Date: 02/03/25 20:04
Re: Almost matching pair of Santa Fe Hudsons
Author: ironmtn

Really interesting images - thanks. They look like real hotrods.

And the drivers, are those LFM "Universals"? See advertisement in this recent discussion: https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?10,5978271,page=1  Use of them by Santa Fe would be logical, as the firm was from Santa Fe's hometown of Atchison, Kansas. During that previous thread I had thought about how relatively uncommon it was to see that type as compared to the others discussed. And then this photo is posted. A nice follow-up to that discussion.

MC



Date: 02/04/25 04:19
Re: Almost matching pair of Santa Fe Hudsons
Author: train1275

Yes, LFM's.

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Date: 02/07/25 15:26
Re: Almost matching pair of Santa Fe Hudsons
Author: DWDebs/2472

4-6-4 ATSF 3450 is on display at the RailGiants Train Museum, which is located inside the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds in Pomona, CA. ATSF 3450 still has the moveable smoke deflector on the smokestack.
http://www.railgiants.org/atchison-topeka.htm

- Doug Debs
 



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