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Steam & Excursion > Cast-steel frames outside the US?Date: 07/23/25 12:41 Cast-steel frames outside the US? Author: timz A March 1950 issue of Engineering describes the hundred 2-8-4s
built 1948-49 in Glasgow for the South African Railways. Their frames were cast by GSC. How many other countries got frames from them? The engines were 3 ft 6 in gauge, 51-inch drivers, engine weight 70.85 presumably-English tons -- built to run on 45-lb rail. Date: 07/23/25 13:20 Re: Cast-steel frames outside the US? Author: callum_out Wonder if these were done here or some GSC subsidiary (or foreign) plant?
Out Date: 07/23/25 14:38 Re: Cast-steel frames outside the US? Author: timz The article said the frames came from the US.
Date: 07/23/25 15:19 Re: Cast-steel frames outside the US? Author: 4745 New South Wales Government Railways C38 class had GSC frames.
They were Pacific type locomotives. The first one entered service January 22, 1943 and the last of the class of 30 in 1949. The first 6 were delivered during the war years. 3801 to 3805 were streamlined with 69'' drivers and 245lb boiler pressure, and 36,273lb tractive effort. 3801 is still running around now on the main line. Graham. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/23/25 15:34 by 4745. Date: 07/23/25 17:13 Re: Cast-steel frames outside the US? Author: timz Wouldn't have guessed there was enough shipping
capacity in 1942 to send frames US to Australia. Date: 07/23/25 18:02 Re: Cast-steel frames outside the US? Author: PHall timz Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Wouldn't have guessed there was enough shipping > capacity in 1942 to send frames US to Australia. If it was considered essential to the war effort it would have made it. The was an incredible amount of shipping between the US and Australia/New Zealand during the war. Date: 07/23/25 18:10 Re: Cast-steel frames outside the US? Author: HotWater PHall Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > timz Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Wouldn't have guessed there was enough shipping > > capacity in 1942 to send frames US to > Australia. > > If it was considered essential to the war effort > it would have made it. The was an incredible > amount of shipping between the US and > Australia/New Zealand during the war. Plus, since it was only a frame for a Pacific, how big could it have been in the hold of a ship, even multiple frames? Date: 07/23/25 18:18 Re: Cast-steel frames outside the US? Author: ts1457 HotWater Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Plus, since it was only a frame for a Pacific, how > big could it have been in the hold of a ship, even > multiple frames? I am guessing that Australian labor had better uses for the war effort than building a locomotive frame. USA had specialized manufacturing that could do it easily. Date: 07/23/25 21:38 Re: Cast-steel frames outside the US? Author: 4745 The original order was for 5 frames, in May,1939
and was slow in coming due to the war effort. A second order was placed in 1945 for 25 more frames. Graham. Date: 07/25/25 10:41 Re: Cast-steel frames outside the US? Author: DWDebs/2472 All 90 South African Railways class 25 4-8-4s (3' 6" gauge), built by Henschel & Son (Kassel, Germany) and North British Locomotive Company (Glasgow) in 1953, had cast-steel locomotive frames (cylinders cast integral with frame) made in USA, probably by General Steel Castings in Granite City, Illinois. Tender frames were also cast steel, probably also made by GSC. All locomotives were built with Timken roller bearings on all axles, main rods, and side rods; made by Timken in Canton, Ohio. More info: South African Class 25 4-8-4 - Wikipedia
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/25/25 11:39 by DWDebs/2472.  |