Steam & Excursion > Grand Trunk's Contribution

Affording to railwaypages.com GTR Locomotives - R&LHS Bulletin #147, this is the fifth locomotive in an order for ten Class A3 4-6-0's delivered by ALCO to the Grand Trunk in August 1906. The fact that it appears to be sitting on a turntable adds a detail neither of the Sanborn maps previously posted shows. That the builder's plate is visible on the cylinder and not the normal location adds another curious detail to this image.
Photo credit Detroit Photographic Company and the Library of Congress
Be of good cheer,
—Mac
www.lowellamrine.com

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The painting of the name looks like an early toy train might have as if this were a hurry-up job to get a quick photo and not the way it would be eventually be painted.
Bob

So this engine worked on the Grand Trunk line across Maine correct?   Just trying to keep the two Grand Trunk's mentally separated which I've always had a challenge doing.   Thanks.

Imagine trying to keep laundry white while drying on a clothesline next to coal-burning steam locomotives! 
- Doug Debs

If the western end was the Chicago & Grand Trunk, that could be correct.
—Mac

Milwaukee Wrote:
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> So this engine worked on the Grand Trunk line
> across Maine correct?   Just trying to keep the
> two Grand Trunk's mentally separated which I've
> always had a challenge doing.   Thanks.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/29/25 11:07 by MacBeau.

Don't see many boilers as clean as that.  Not just lack of dirt, lack of piping and appliances    

Maybe on the other side?

Victor Baird

Tominde Wrote:
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> Don't see many boilers as clean as that.  Not
> just lack of dirt, lack of piping and appliances 
>   

These locomotives have yet to fired up, they're being photographed before delivery cold.
—Mac

Tominde Wrote:
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> Don't see many boilers as clean as that.  Not
> just lack of dirt, lack of piping and appliances 
>   

MacBeau Wrote:
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> If the western end was the Chicago & Grand Trunk,
> that could be correct.
> —Mac
>
> Milwaukee Wrote:
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> > So this engine worked on the Grand Trunk line
> > across Maine correct?   Just trying to keep
> the
> > two Grand Trunk's mentally separated which I've
> > always had a challenge doing.   Thanks.

The Chicago & Grand Trunk went into receivership January 1900, and sold in three sections so no longer existed in 1906. In 1901 the Grand Trunk Railway of Canada leases these sections from the newly incorporated Grand Trunk Western Rly Co (GTW RR was formed in 1928).  My source is the Statutory History of Railways in Canada 1987 Edition.

The photo credit I have is from Schenectady Works Photo S-383.  Perhaps ALCO used the Detroit Photographic Co. to do their builder's shots. January 1910 1014 was renumbered 414 worked the eastern US lines.In 1915 the locomotive was given a new boiler and was super-heated; at some point received piston valves. In 1923 after CN's takeover 414 was briefly renumbered GT 1603 but shortly after reassigned to Canada to became CN 1603.  To have this happen CN was required to pay $2296.00 in duties & taxes!  December 28, 1935 1603 was scrapped on December 28, 1935.

Gerry Gaugl
Ottawa ON

  

Thank you the additional history and the clarification on the railroad itself.
—Mac

moonliter Wrote:
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> MacBeau Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If the western end was the Chicago & Grand
> Trunk,
> > that could be correct.
> > —Mac
> >
> > Milwaukee Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > So this engine worked on the Grand Trunk line
> > > across Maine correct?   Just trying to keep
> > the
> > > two Grand Trunk's mentally separated which
> I've
> > > always had a challenge doing.   Thanks.
>
> The Chicago & Grand Trunk went into receivership
> January 1900, and sold in three sections so no
> longer existed in 1906. In 1901 the Grand Trunk
> Railway of Canada leases these sections from the
> newly incorporated Grand Trunk Western Rly Co (GTW
> RR was formed in 1928).  My source is the
> Statutory History of Railways in Canada 1987
> Edition.
>
> The photo credit I have is from Schenectady Works
> Photo S-383.  Perhaps ALCO used the Detroit
> Photographic Co. to do their builder's shots.
> January 1910 1014 was renumbered 414 worked the
> eastern US lines.In 1915 the locomotive was given
> a new boiler and was super-heated; at some point
> received piston valves. In 1923 after CN's
> takeover 414 was briefly renumbered GT 1603 but
> shortly after reassigned to Canada to became CN
> 1603.  To have this happen CN was required to pay
> $2296.00 in duties & taxes!  December 28, 1935
> 1603 was scrapped on December 28, 1935.
>
> Gerry Gaugl
> Ottawa ON
>
>