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Date: 07/04/26 19:24
Wes Camp's opinion?
Author: NKP779

The best chance I had- and missed it- was when JJJ, Wes and I spent several uninterrupted hours at Jerry's new office at the AGE OF STEAM ROUNDHOUSE. There was a FWRHS sponsored tour there that day. A lot of the conversation involved those two directly and I didn't want to steer them off track.

My question then and now is how would Wes compare the NKP 759 and the RDG 2102. He had lots of first hand experience with both. I am obviously a die hard NKP fan being involved with NKP 765 since Day One and extremely proud of all that has been achieved . The two locomotives are close in drivers, weight, tractive effort and boiler pressure.

Did anyone here ever hear Wes voice such an opinion?

I am not seeking a chorus of previous committed NKP Berk fans vs a chorus of previously committed T-1 fans.

What did Wes say?



Date: 07/04/26 21:58
Re: Wes Camp's opinion?
Author: Evan_Werkema

He gave a comparison of a sort in this old thread:

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?10,4976351

His impression was that 2102 would win in a "race," but in this old thread, he put his experiences with 759 at the top:

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?10,4428629



Date: 07/05/26 23:53
Re: Wes Camp's opinion?
Author: NKP779

Good research! So far it is kinda-sorta a toss up.

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Date: 07/06/26 06:58
Re: Wes Camp's opinion?
Author: Lackawanna484

Back in the steam era, railroads would often specify tweaks that allowed a locomotive to be exceptionally efficient in its home district, or in a particular assignment, like hauling coal.  Erie had one class of locomotives which spent its entire life as pushers over Starucca Viaduct and up to Gulf Summit.  New York Central's 2-8-4 Berkshires spent their entire careers on a single Boston & Albany run. Niagara locomotives were limited to a very specific assignment.  And so on.

The idea of a single locomotive making a 2,000 mile run, getting serviced, and heading back would make the head of a 1940 superintendent explode.  



Date: 07/06/26 07:40
Re: Wes Camp's opinion?
Author: randgust

Hey, Santa Fe did it with the 3460 class......

https://kvrhc.org/newsroom/2015/9/20/remembering-the-distance-record-of-santa-fe-3461

Helps to be an oil burner though.



Date: 07/06/26 10:17
Re: Wes Camp's opinion?
Author: Lackawanna484

Thanks for the link. Good read.

"Stopped 57 minutes for a grade crossing collision"

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Date: 07/07/26 09:19
Re: Wes Camp's opinion?
Author: sarailfan

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> The idea of a single locomotive making a 2,000
> mile run, getting serviced, and heading back would
> make the head of a 1940 superintendent
> explode.  

Except for on the CPR. Once the Hudsons came on the scene they regularly ran Calgary - Winnipeg and Winnipeg - Thunder Bay without change. West of Calgary the Selkirks covered 2 subdivisions to Revelstoke,then served as a helper to Taft before being serviced. The Pacific or Hudson that took over at Revelstoke ran through to Vancouver.

The CPR was a pioneer in both compounding and superheating prior to the "super power" era as well.

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Darren Boes
Lethbridge, AB
Southern Alberta Railfan



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