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Nostalgia & History > difference in truck wheelsDate: 02/14/09 13:46 difference in truck wheels Author: xtra1188w Sorry, but this isn't about railroad wheels. This thread is to demonstrate what I was talking about concerning said differences between steel and aluminum wheels in a thread by AfricanSteam a day or two ago. One of these images also has a picture of yours truly so now any who were wondering what I look like can see. I am an older version of this by now of course, but? I really appreciate the patience by Todd and other TO moderators in letting a few of us old truckers posting a few truck pictures here on TO from time to time.
Con Date: 02/14/09 13:55 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: brianedwardss Ah yes the bud wheel, the ones you always break the inner lug nuts on when dismounting.....
Date: 02/14/09 14:03 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: truxtrax Don't take offense, but "cornbinder" was too kind a name out here in Oregon. More commonly called a "s**t spreader" in these parts. I have to agree with that description, for it goes without saying the worst thing I've had to drive had IH on the nose. My good friend and former sleeper partner J.E.M. owned a "Travelall" that was in his eyes the greatest thing since the invention of horsepower, but he would throw a fit if he was called for a dispatch and discovered when he showed up he had been given an International! 8>) Now the Volvo's rate pretty high on the list!
Butch,,,,,always liked the ones built here at home...Freightliner Date: 02/14/09 14:21 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: cabinman That binder's front wheels are the 10:00 x 22 tube type aluminum with a steel ring split outer ring.
The Volvo has 11:00x24.5 tubeless 2 hole steel Budd wheels. I worked in a truck tire shop before I ever drove them. Keith Turley Pasadena, California Date: 02/14/09 14:27 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: xtra1188w cabinman Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > That binder's front wheels are the 10:00 x 22 tube > type aluminum with a steel ring split outer > ring. > > The Volvo has 11:00x24.5 tubeless 2 hole steel > Budd wheels. > > I worked in a truck tire shop before I ever drove > them. > > Keith Turley > Pasadena, California Yep, you're right. I forgot to point that out. There's other types of wheels as well, especially of the tube type split ring variety, but since this is a railroad forum I guess I won't plunge in too deep here. Con Date: 02/14/09 14:34 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: xtra1188w truxtrax Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Don't take offense, but "cornbinder" was too kind > a name out here in Oregon. More commonly called a > "s**t spreader" in these parts. I have to agree > with that description, for it goes without saying > the worst thing I've had to drive had IH on the > nose. My good friend and former sleeper partner > J.E.M. owned a "Travelall" that was in his eyes > the greatest thing since the invention of > horsepower, but he would throw a fit if he was > called for a dispatch and discovered when he > showed up he had been given an International! 8>) > Now the Volvo's rate pretty high on the list! > I agree with most of what you said here, but I never had all that much against I-H's other than they were usually ugly. That old purple Binder in my picture was one of the best riding trucks that I ever drove, including ones that had air bags. Trucks that I never cared all that much for were Macks, Whites, and Dodges. Did you ever drive a diesel Dodge tractor? My personal preferences were conventional Peterbilts and or Freightliners. Marmons were okay too although they weren't as purty as Petes or Freightshakers. :-) Con Date: 02/14/09 20:39 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: bnsftrucker The oldest Mack I drove was an 85 or 86 with the offset style cab if you know what I mean, I also drove a 56 KW with a 5/4 brownie, now that was fun, i'd bet not alot has ever experienced a 5/4 brownie, it's two transmissions, main had 5 gears and the auxilary had 4
Date: 02/15/09 01:29 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: cabinman I learned to drive on a set of sticks. The 69 Pete I owned had ther nicest set of boxes I ever drove. I used to replace the clevises on the rods back to the brownie about every year and kept them very tight......they would never lock up...even if you forgot to square it off while shifting.
Keith Turley Pasadena, California Date: 02/15/09 06:57 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: aehouse And this all relates to railroading history and nostalgia how?
Date: 02/15/09 09:04 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: bnsftrucker Alot of shippers went to the trucking industry when more trucks were readily available.
Date: 02/15/09 14:39 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: BryanTCook Were the 10-hole Budds made by the same company that made the Budd cars and other historical railroad equipment?
Date: 02/15/09 20:54 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: xtra1188w BryanTCook Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Were the 10-hole Budds made by the same company > that made the Budd cars and other historical > railroad equipment? I don't know about this, I just know that everybody called the 10 lugged wheels Buds or Budds. I have never thought to check out why. shrug Con Date: 02/16/09 15:54 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: MW4man BryanTCook Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Were the 10-hole Budds made by the same company > that made the Budd cars and other historical > railroad equipment? Yes. The Budd company's first and foremost business was making car and truck parts. The Hunting Park plant, which produced the Zephyrs and other cars, primarily made fenders, frames, and wheels, and in some cases the whole truck. The C model Ford is an example of a Budd design. During World War II Budd moved all the railroad business to the Red Lion Road Facility, and Hunting Park became exclusively auto parts. During or just after World War II Budd invented what they called the "Safety Wheel" which became the Budd Disk wheel they made it in stamped steel and forged Aluminum. In the 1970s Budd was bought by Thyssen-Krupp and the headquarters was moved out of Phila. The Red Lion Road plant was closed after the CTA order in 1989. Budd could not compete with the discount financing foreign carbuilders got. Budd continued to make frames, fenders and wheels at Hunting Park until 2003 when they closed the Hunting Park Plant. My F-250 has fenders stamped at Hunting Park on it. The railroad operation around Hunting Park was fascinating. The Reading Company's Main Line from West Falls through Nicetown serviced the plants in the basements on either side of the railroad. The PRR Chestnut Hill Branch crossed over the Reading in the Middle of the Budd Complex and had tracks snaking all over into all the buildings. Midvale Yard on the north side of the branch staged all the cars. The freight crews had their work cut out for them as they had to switch the plant, marshal the yard, and move the cuts to and from Margie Street on the NEC. All of this while the Branch hosted a passenger train in each direction every half hour all day. Date: 02/17/09 09:48 Re: difference in truck wheels Author: m1bprr Had my fun in my 33 year career with a NJ. Power company as a heavy equipment operator, got to drive many variations of trucks. Did some railfanning with them as well.
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