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Here's another Shorpy picture...........

http://www.shorpy.com/node/23309?size=_original#caption

Shows how my mind works - saw the title and immediately thought "crew testing by weed weasels". LOL

KskidinTx Wrote:
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> Here's another Shorpy picture...........
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> http://www.shorpy.com/node/23309?size=_original#ca
> ption

Thanks for sharing. That is a fantastic railroad picture.

The UP Challenger in West Carlin, NV??? Where was that photo taken?

I personally don't have any idea where the photo was taken. If you click on the image "Comments" will come up and one of them states the route through Carlin were "SP" tracks. Some of the local people should be able to identify the actual location.
Mark

Found this photo myself today on my telegraphy website. That's a fine dressed brakeman with his safety gear due to a great photographer of past times, Dorthea Lange.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/25/18 19:38 by rrman6.

At least 15 years of service I do believe. All uniform “sashes” I’m familiar with was 5 years for each one...

Presumably it's stopped at the WP depot in Carlin. Hard to explain the "UP" on his uniform.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/26/18 07:41 by timz.

I wonder if it was a detouring Challenger?

You remember-- no need for a detour.

In June 1939 train 88 was due out
of Carlin at 1143, and that doesn't
fit the sun that well, but...

Edit: I was looking at the wrong pic.
The other Shorpy pic is the one on WP.

http://www.shorpy.com/node/23304



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/26/18 10:34 by timz.

timz wrote:

> Edit: I was looking at the wrong pic. The other Shorpy pic is the one on WP.

> http://www.shorpy.com/node/23304


I'm not too sure if "the other Shorpy pic" that timz refers to is the one in the original link in this thread or the one he provides a link to.

Anyway, partly visible behind the brakeman in timz's photo link is a station one mile sign. It is apparently for West Carlin. Did the WP have a station of West Carlin? Did the WP use station one mile signs similar to those used by the SP?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/26/18 13:30 by johnsweetser.

I was referring to the Challenger that ran to Los Angeles rather than the San Francisco Challenger. Supposedly the SP crew district was from Ogden to Carlin and you would think the train crew would be SP not UP. If there was a service interruption somewhere south of Salt Lake City they might have detoured with a UP train crew, at least as far as they could go under the 16 hour law.

Another possibility might be that he had UP on one collar and SP on the other as part of some duel branding of the train. I’m a little skeptical about that. Maybe he was a boomer and had just changed roads and didn’t have a new uniform, or the picture isn’t at Carlin, Nevada.

West Carlin and East Carlin were in the WP
timetable-- eastward SP freights presumably
left WP at West Carlin to cross to the
SP yard, and returned to WP at East Carlin.

Does anyone know if the mountains look right for Carlin? Did the Carlin "yards"---SP or WP look like that? Hard to believe a detouring UP train would use UP crews without pilots that far off their territory.

spladiv Wrote:
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> Does anyone know if the mountains look right for
> Carlin? Did the Carlin "yards"---SP or WP look
> like that? Hard to believe a detouring UP train
> would use UP crews without pilots that far off
> their territory.

Definately not Carlin.

Anybody else notice the resemblance to former President Truman?

I take it he is looking forward to the rear of his train, with the station somewhere ahead. Could this be on the UP, (no surprise there, given the flagman's uniform pin) somewhere in the high desert of Utah/Wyoming?

AA

Stanford White
Carmel Valley, CA