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Date: 11/08/18 20:09
Lady's first at Sunnyvale circa 1969
Author: photobob

Passengers board a San Francisco bound commute train at Sunnyvale. Notice the men are all in suits. What was the story of car SP2202? If can remember right the SP was experimenting with converting some of their old Daylight car to be used in commute service I believe the single vestibule was a problem.

Robert Morris
Dunsmuir, CA
Robert Morris Photography




Date: 11/08/18 20:22
Re: Lady's first at Sunnyvale circa 1969
Author: WAF

SP wanted to convert the extra lightweight cars that Amtrak did not want into high capacity commute cats 3 by 2 seating. However commuters hated car 2202 and the program did not go further



Date: 11/08/18 20:22
Re: Lady's first at Sunnyvale circa 1969
Author: MojaveBill

Accoring to "Day Trains of the Coast Line" (Ryan and Shine), SP 2202 was built by PS in 1936 as First 2401 for the Coast Daylight. To T&NO 453 6/39.To SP 2202 4/56. Converted to 122 seat commute 1964.

Bill Deaver
Mojave, CA



Date: 11/09/18 10:32
Re: Lady's first at Sunnyvale circa 1969
Author: ATSF3751

WAF Wrote:
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> SP wanted to convert the extra lightweight cars
> that Amtrak did not want into high capacity
> commute cats 3 by 2 seating. However commuters
> hated car 2202 and the program did not go further

Also, according to SP sources at the time, the ex-Daylight cars were not up to the constant beating from frequent stops and starts in commuter service. What commuters probably did like about the cars was the a/c that was not found in the subs. 



Date: 11/09/18 17:45
Re: Lady's first at Sunnyvale circa 1969
Author: PHall

ATSF3751 Wrote:
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> WAF Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SP wanted to convert the extra lightweight cars
> > that Amtrak did not want into high capacity
> > commute cats 3 by 2 seating. However commuters
> > hated car 2202 and the program did not go
> further
>
> Also, according to SP sources at the time, the
> ex-Daylight cars were not up to the constant
> beating from frequent stops and starts in commuter
> service. What commuters probably did like about
> the cars was the a/c that was not found in the
> subs. 

If the a/c was working...



Date: 11/09/18 18:32
Re: Lady's first at Sunnyvale circa 1969
Author: daylightdon

I recall commuting to school in this car (Menlo Boys School in Atherton). Stepping from one of the "subs" into this car was night and day. It was quiet and smooth and even in the 70's seemed quite "modern" compared to other commute equipment. I even remember a cute and very quiet girl from Sacred Heart girls school that I never quite mustered up the courage to talk to that rode this train.



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