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Date: 01/12/21 09:29
Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: slacks

In the early 80s at Omaha shops was UP 968b waiting shop time. This is the front end veiw but I don,t know if the hostlers controls are on this end or the other?  Anyone know?




Date: 01/12/21 10:29
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: JDRumley

Didn't B units have hostler controls. If so, they would be in the F end.



Date: 01/12/21 11:41
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: BoilingMan

SP’s ALCo PB’s even had a horn on the roof. I think their EMD E units had a had horns on the B’s too, but it was on the end bulkhead beside the end door.
SR



Date: 01/12/21 13:06
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: Texican65

Very neat photo....thanks for sharing. Interesting...I've always heard about controls on B units, even the GP-60B's we still have in service on the BN....but...never seen the "hostler" controls in them. Does anybody have a picture by chance?



Date: 01/12/21 13:11
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: davew833

Sadly, 968B was retired in 1980 and scrapped by 1981, along with the other 3 "B" units UP had kept for passenger protection and business trains, and two of the 4 "A" units. (951 was saved, and 928 was gutted and sent to a museum.) Less than 10 years later when UP wanted a "B" unit for their restored E-unit trio, they had to start with one that was in much worse condition than the ones they scrapped.



Date: 01/12/21 13:13
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: TomG

The hostler controls are on the engineers (right side) at the first port hole with hinges so it can be opened up and he can stick his head out. I have a photo of a F7B controls. Ill look for it.



Date: 01/12/21 14:40
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: LV95032

If it had hostler controls the wwould be in the "F" end. Being a locomotive which can move on its own it then must have a horn and bell. Note - Not all B units have hostler controls.
RWJ



Date: 01/12/21 15:19
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: HotWater

LV95032 Wrote:
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> If it had hostler controls the wwould be in the
> "F" end. Being a locomotive which can move on its
> own it then must have a horn and bell. Note - Not
> all B units have hostler controls.
> RWJ

Correct, as Hostler Control" was, I believe, an option and thus an extra charge. Thus, not all B-Units of any type, were equipped with Hostler Controls.



Date: 01/12/21 15:21
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: Evan_Werkema

davew833 Wrote:

> Less than 10
> years later when UP wanted a "B" unit for their
> restored E-unit trio, they had to start with one
> that was in much worse condition than the ones
> they scrapped.

Indeed.  What they started with was a B-unit that had been gutted and outfitted for use as a steam generator car for Amtrak.



Date: 01/12/21 17:14
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: Q-GP30

Indeed, I have slides of the 968B , gutted, waiting to be cut up labeled 6/81 at PNC Mt.Vernon when the late Burlington John and I took a tour of the shop.

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Date: 01/12/21 19:10
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: 4451Puff

Texican65 Wrote:
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..I've always heard about controls on
> B units,  Does anybody have a
> picture by chance?

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,1217360,1217380#msg-1217380



Date: 01/13/21 01:44
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: Notch7

The UP B-units that Amtrak sent to the Florida pool didn't have hostler controls.  We looked for it and would have used it around the Hamlet Diesel Shop.  We often used the hostler controls on our SCL E7-B's



Date: 01/13/21 07:52
Re: Even B units have a front end! UP E-9b.
Author: dan

Kevin Piper caught this B unit getting hostled in omaha

970b* in Chian

Jim Watson caught these two in Newton,KS








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