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Nostalgia & History > ATSF Air CargoDate: 01/15/22 13:27 ATSF Air Cargo Author: masterphots Douglas C54 no other info. Possibly at the Douglas factory in Santa Monica (today's Clover Field)?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/22 14:28 by masterphots. Date: 01/15/22 14:29 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: PHall There was an article a few years ago about the Santa Fe Skyway in the SFR&HS Warbonnet.
Date: 01/15/22 14:58 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: Milwaukee Note they weren't taking any chances that imbalanced freight would cause the tail to drop and hit the tarmac.
Date: 01/15/22 15:03 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: MojaveBill Some a/c still use those...
Bill Deaver Tehachapi, CA Date: 01/15/22 15:12 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: Ritzville Very cool shot!!
Larry Date: 01/15/22 16:28 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: timz What's that cutoff nose section at the right
edge of the pic? Date: 01/15/22 16:36 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: PacificElectric1961 Lots more on this topic back in 2005
https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,904636,page=1 Date: 01/15/22 16:41 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: PHall Milwaukee Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Note they weren't taking any chances that > imbalanced freight would cause the tail to drop > and hit the tarmac. Cargo door is aft of the wing so when you're loading that first pallet or two or unloading them you can come dangerously close to the aircraft "tipping point". Once you get a pallet or two loaded up front it's not much of a probem. And Boeing 747 freighters still use tail stands during loading and unloading operations for the very same reason today. Date: 01/15/22 17:20 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: masterphots timz Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > What's that cutoff nose section at the right > edge of the pic? Replacement component? That's why I think the location could be the old Douglas plant in Santa Monica, CA. At the far left edge of the photo, which the scan cut off, is a United Airlines DC on the ramp. Fun fact: Around 1959 or so I was wandering around the UP E. Los Angeles shops on a Sunday and on the shop floor was a complete E unit cab shell, painted UP yellow. It had a blank EMD oval builders plate in the center of the dashboard or whatever they call it. I assumed it was there for a repair job that might require it. It had all windows, etc. Why I didn't take a photo is another question. Date: 01/15/22 17:22 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: dan wasn't a simulator?
Date: 01/15/22 17:29 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: masterphots dan Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > wasn't a simulator? I doubt it, it was in an area with GP hood doors and other what looked like spare parts. Did they have simulators back then? That said I guess they could have built a simulator using it, but would that have roll down windows, etc.? Who knows. Maybe someone from the UPHS will chime in. Date: 01/15/22 21:01 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: dan just thought with a frame to support it so it could pivot?
Date: 01/15/22 21:49 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: PHall Airplane fuselages are built in sections and then joined on the assembly line during final assembly.
So a "complete" nose section is not that unusual at the factory. And Santa Monica is where Douglas assembled many aircraft. Date: 01/16/22 06:43 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: atsf121 Had never heard about the Santa Fe Skyway before, awesome photo. We love watching the planes approach the Santa Monica airport from the backyard of my wife’s grandmother. There’s a park over there as well that we enjoy, with a DC3 on display where I think the Douglas factory used to be.
As for the stand, they are still used all though I haven’t seen one surprisingly, and look what happened to the USC football team a few months ago when it wasn’t used - https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32230018/usc-trojans-team-plane-tips-backward-tarmac-coaches-staff-board?platform=amp Nathan Posted from iPhone Date: 01/22/22 09:53 Re: ATSF Air Cargo Author: Cumbres Curious that this topic popped up last week. Today I found a YouTube video on the ATSF Skyway plane service. Very interesting video with some neat old plane and train scenes.
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