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Date: 08/01/22 10:19
SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: valmont

Looks like E Scotts Ave & South Union ... and I found an E Scotts Ave in Stockton ... putting my money on that ; ^ )
 




Date: 08/01/22 10:48
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: refarkas

Back-to-back F3A's and a wooden caboose with street running! Super catch!
Bob



Date: 08/01/22 10:49
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: train1275

Killer cool shot !!



Date: 08/01/22 11:03
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: TCnR

great shot. near the diamonds at stockton tower.
the hardcore would hang out all day in the shade at railfan park. now its a different hardcore hanging at the park.



Date: 08/01/22 12:00
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: Ritzville

Very NICE shot!

Larry



Date: 08/01/22 12:45
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: trainjunkie

Union Square Park in the background.



Date: 08/01/22 15:53
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: JanGAustin

Great catch, great composition and lighting.

Jan Austin
Chico, CA
Photography by Jan G. Austin



Date: 08/01/22 16:03
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: alongthejointline

1960s era?



Date: 08/01/22 16:10
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: TCnR

Is that the SN Detour? The wooden caboose behind the power makes me think of the Detour and the move from one yard to the other, then run around the train and head out ofter that. I didn't follow the action that closely but have read stories about those days of yesteryear.
t4p



Date: 08/01/22 18:33
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: march_hare

Gasp!



Date: 08/01/22 18:47
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: zephyrus

Oustanding!  Sure looks like an SN Detour.  Some background: The SN Detour came about in 1954 when the Sacramento Northern's car ferry "Ramon" was declared unfit for service.  This severed the SN mainline between Sacramento and Oakland.  (The line past Walnut Creek to Oakland would be abandoned in 1957).  As there was still traffic on the south end of the SN, and the steel plant at Pittsburg was a huge WP-SN customer, an arrangement was made to use the WP between Sacramento and Stockton and the Santa Fe between Stockton and Pittsburg for the SN to move its cars.  The aptly name SN Detour would pick up its train in Sacramento and come down to Stockton, cross into the WP yard and pick up / drop off cars.  Then the engines would reverse ends of the train to head out the Santa Fe to Pittsburg and beyond.  In 1957, several things occured: the SN was abandoned over the Oakland Hills beyond Walnut Creek, electrification ended on the remaining segment from Pittsburg and three F3As arrived from the New York Ontario and Western.  Two of them became SN 301-302 later 301-A / 301-D.  The third engine, SN 303 on paper, was leased to the WP as 801-D.

After 1957, the SN kept a switcher in Pittsburg to take cars destined beyond the steel mill to their customers.  By the late 1960s, the line was pared back to the north side of Concord.

I have rarely seen photos of the SN Detour north of the Santa Fe line.  Based on the photos I have seen, most fans seemed to catch it in Stockton or Pittsburg and chase along the Santa Fe.

Z



Date: 08/02/22 11:42
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: Westbound

This was a nice spot for watching WP street running in Stockton, although it was only a couple of city blocks long. A few blocks north was the SP Montpelier Branch, running in the middle of Weber Street , which crossed the WP mainline very close to the WP depot. 



Date: 08/02/22 13:23
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: TheNavigator

Great picture!  One of the many reasons why I like visiting the Nostalgia board.
GK



Date: 08/02/22 17:44
Re: SN F's street running ... have picture and maybe location
Author: gonx

Alan Miller photo

5-31-69



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