Nostalgia & History > Here's CGW #63 and ... uh CGW 63

My photo KC @ 8/14/71 ... both numbered 63. Guess I was used to the calf having a 'B' attached to its number ... of course maybe they just did things differently in KC back then as the Santa Fe had a couple TR4 cow/calf sets working KC area around the same time, and they were 2418/2418A and 2419/2419A. 

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Awesome seeing some CGW.

Z

Thanks for posting CGW slides !

Great roster photo.
Bob

Cool photo! Where in KC was that, exactly? By the time I was in the area, CNW was on the Spine Line and so forth.

The CGW power is on N Prospect, coming out of the old MOP Neff yard, appears to be heading back to the CGW Ohio Ave yard. Back in this time frame the track was considered the right way out of Neff from the "West end" towards Lydia Ave. I think the UP renamed it ML 3 .Also it looks like the blue building still stands, and Knuckle Heads Bar is back to the right, if a person is around KC railfanning it is a great place to stop by on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon, open jam and free admission, and tracks right next to the bar. KCRW287

Since the units were connected with a drawbar and could only be seperated by the shops. The CGW probably considered them to be a single unit and thus only needed a single number.

It is hard for me to prove, but, based on several online references, including a post on TO, saying that CGW's 8 TR2 pairs were numbered 58A&B through 66A&B, I believe there is lettering on the side sills near the ends of the units in valmont's photo that say "63-A" on the cab unit and "63-B" on the booster unit. I have not found a clear enough, close-up enough shot to reference to support my claim. After CNW bought the CGW, the TR2's kept their CGW numbers for a while, but I guess someone at CNW wanted the "A" and "B" to be more noticeable. See the 63A in this photo: https://www.cnwhs.org/imggallery/displayimage.php?album=4&pid=768

Matthew

Hmmmmm?  Here are my pictures, scanned from negatives from a small P&S camera, of C&NW. ex-CGW, TR2A #58A + #58B and #63A + #63B at Mitchell Yard, Milwaukee, WI, 3/25/72, 5/28/72, and 11/24/72.  Did C&NW add the As and Bs?  Gerry

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here is a little more info on CGW 63 markings for the B unit, photographer was Vincent Porreca, same location, taken March 15 1970. The 63B is located next to the footsteps of the rear of the B unit, they don't look like the CNW stenciled the B markings on after the merger to me. Great photographs from Valmont, KCRW287

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KCRW287 Wrote:
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> here is a little more info on CGW 63 markings for
> the B unit, photographer was Vincent Porreca, same
> location, taken March 15 1970. The 63B is located
> next to the footsteps of the rear of the B unit,
> they don't look like the CNW stenciled the B
> markings on after the merger to me. Great
> photographs from Valmont, KCRW287

That is Great!!! Just goes to show that the old adage 'read the fine print' still applies ... Thank you both for correcting a long-standing error in my records.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/31/23 12:24 by valmont.