Nostalgia & History > Sleeper Saturday: Lake Majella, Lake Clark & Lake Griffin

Continuing this series of slides taken in the early 60's by Dick Kuelbs, this time of three Plan #3585 10 section-1 drawing room-2 compartment (10S-1DR-2C) cars.

1) Plan #3585/J Lake Majella, in Dallas, on Friday, December 25th, 1964.  Built in Lot #4725 in September 1923 for assignment to the Sunset Limited, later assigned to the PRR, NYNH&H, SAL, and ACL, retained by Pullman at the 12/31/1948 divestiture, repainted to Two-Tone Gray (TTG) as seen here in November 1953, retired in April 1966 and sold for scrap.

2) Plan #3585/G Lake Clark, in Fort Worth, on Sunday, August 11th, 1963.  Built in Lot #4728 in December 1923 for assignment to the general service pool, later assigned to the UP, SAL, IC, PRR, and back to UP, sold to the UP at the 12/31/1948 divestiture, repainted to Armour Yellow as seen here in April 1952, retired in March 1965 and reassigned to MofW service as #906049 in April 1966 (according to Wayner, but according to Don Strack's website, it never went to MofW service).

3) Plan #3585/J Lake Griffin, in New Orleans, on Friday, November 23rd, 1962.  Built in Lot #4725 in September 1923 for assignment to the Floridan, later assigned to the SAL, B&M, ACL, and MEC, retained by Pullman at the 12/31/1948 divestiture, repainted to TTG as seen here in April 1953, retired in February 1966 and sold for scrap.

Here's a link to the previous post in this series, of Fir Summit, Fir View, and Fir Woods:
https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,6107569

Here's a link to the following post in this series, of Glen Aladale, Glen Fee, and Glen Moriston:
https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,6112988

Sources:

1. "The Complete Roster of Heavyweight Pullman Cars" by Robert J. Wayner (Wayner Publications, 1985)

2. "Passenger Car Catalog: Pullman Operated Equipment, 1912-1949" by William W. Kratville (Kratville Publications, 1968)

3. Tom Madden's Pullman Project CCR database: http://pullmanproject.com/Database.htm

4. Tom Madden's Pullman Project AC assignments (1937-1943) database.

5. "Railway Prototype Cyclopedia Vol. 33: Pullman Heavyweight Sleepers, Part IV: The Color Photographs by Dick Kuelbs"
(RP CYC Publishing Co., 2016)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/13/25 11:24 by Rainier_Rails.

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Three beautiful cars. I will always miss those days.

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The UP car lost one vestibule.  Can one presume the addded space was for more restrom footage?

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Stanford White
Carmel Valley, CA

or linen lockers , shower-doubtful but, coffee station?

agentatascadero Wrote:
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> The UP car lost one vestibule.  Can one presume
> the addded space was for more restrom footage?

Yes, it was for a larger women's lounge; the Plan #3585G suffix was applied in 1939-1940 to several cars (12 total) that were later sold to both UP (7) and SP (4), plus one car sold to the IC.  (What makes it interesting is that this particular modification doesn't seem to be in direct relation to these cars being assigned to said roads, as for 5 of the 7 that were later sold to the UP, they were in various assignments during that timeframe; with the other two having also been assigned to the SP but sold to the UP instead.)

Pullman applied this same modification to a number of the earlier Plan #2585 cars.