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Date: 05/31/26 16:55
The Combined Cincinnati Limited and Spirit of St. Louis
Author: MartyBernard

1. Penn Central 4209 (ex-PRR E7A) and 4022 (ex-NYC E7A) with Trains 78 and 4, the combined Cincinnati Limited and Spirit of St. Louis, 20 min late (4:10 pm) in Indianapolis, IN (State Ave.) on March 25, 1971.

2. Penn Central Business Car 8 brings up the rear of the combined Cincinnati Limited and Spirit of St. Louis in Indianapolis, IN on March 25, 1971.

As the comments say, the trains were not combined until Columbus.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/26 06:37 by MartyBernard.






Date: 05/31/26 17:15
Re: The Combined Cincinnati Limited and Spirit of St. Louis
Author: NS_ecbu

Very nice! I remember when that semaphore in the second pic came down. 



Date: 05/31/26 18:08
Re: The Combined Cincinnati Limited and Spirit of St. Louis
Author: mvrr10

Marty -  thank you very much for these .



Date: 05/31/26 19:09
Re: The Combined Cincinnati Limited and Spirit of St. Louis
Author: ts1457

MartyBernard Wrote:
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> 1. Penn Central 4209 (ex-PRR E7A) and 4022 (ex-NYC
> E7A) with Trains 78 and 4, the combined Cincinnati
> Limited and Spirit of St. Louis, 20 min late (4:10
> pm) in Indianapolis, IN (State Ave.) on March 25,
> 1971.

Thanks for sharing, but at Indianapolis, you cannot consider the trains combined, the way I see it. I think they were combined for Columbus and east.



Date: 05/31/26 22:01
Re: The Combined Cincinnati Limited and Spirit of St. Louis
Author: cabsignaldrop

Very nice! Rarely see pictures of the Spirit in Indianapolis. I believe the Cincinnati Limited joined/separated in Columbus, or perhaps Xeina.

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Date: 06/01/26 06:16
Re: The Combined Cincinnati Limited and Spirit of St. Louis
Author: DavidP

That was one train that survived the May 1, 1971 cuts, and for a while was even improved under Amtrak.  However, PC's deteriorating track conditions and Conrail's rationalization plans made the schedule unviable by the late 1970s.

Dave



Date: 06/01/26 06:37
Re: The Combined Cincinnati Limited and Spirit of St. Louis
Author: ts1457

DavidP Wrote:
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> That was one train that survived the May 1, 1971
> cuts, and for a while was even improved under
> Amtrak.  However, PC's deteriorating track
> conditions and Conrail's rationalization plans
> made the schedule unviable by the late 1970s.

Thanks David.

That route, if it had survived, could have been an important link in the Amtrak network.



Date: 06/01/26 22:38
Re: The Combined Cincinnati Limited and Spirit of St. Louis
Author: GP25

ts1457 Wrote:
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> DavidP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That was one train that survived the May 1,
> 1971
> > cuts, and for a while was even improved under
> > Amtrak.  However, PC's deteriorating track
> > conditions and Conrail's rationalization plans
> > made the schedule unviable by the late 1970s.
>
> Thanks David.
>
> That route, if it had survived, could have been an
> important link in the Amtrak network.

Just like many other Routes in the Country. If they had survived,
would be an important and vital link to much of the country

Jerry Martin
Los Angeles, CA
Central Coast Railroad Festival



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