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Date: 12/16/12 12:27
c.p. kamloops-banff info needed
Author: goneon66

i'm gonna do a dispatching simulation of the c.p. from kamloops to somewhere near banff. if anybody could help me with the below information i'd appreciate it:

1. train symbols. i'll take ANY train symbols EITHER currently running or that have run since 2000 and the origination/destination if known, especially info on the 10'K long non-clearing stack trains.

2. what trains work and/or originate/terminate at the kamloops, revelstoke, and field yards? do any specific operating procedures occur at these yards?

3. what are the on-line industries that are large enough to be switched by either locals or manifest freights between kamloops and field?

4. what are the locals that run on this line and where do they originate/terminate?

or any other operating info that would make the simulation interesting (dpu set out locations, etc.).

thanks for any suggestions..........

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Date: 12/16/12 16:17
Re: c.p. kamloops-banff info needed
Author: dizzy85

These trains originate in Coquitlam/Vancouver or Roberts Bank/Deltaport and their termination points vary (ie. grain and potash terminate in the prairies, etc.)

Grain - 350/351, 354/355, 356/357
IMS - 100/101, 112/111, 198/199
Mixed - 200/201, 202/203, 204/205
Manifest - 408/409
Sulphur - 624/625, 626/627
Potash - 672/673, 674/675
Coal - 860/861, 862/863, 864/865, 866/867, 868/869, 870/871, 872/873, 874/875, 876/877, 878/879

DPU and pusher setout/pickup terminal: Geddis (MP 107 Shuswap Sub)

That's all the info I have for now, as I work out of Vancouver and not any of these locations.



Date: 12/16/12 20:18
Re: c.p. kamloops-banff info needed
Author: telegraphboy

Some of the coal trains from Tech Cominco sparwood come
into Kamloops, and are then transferred to CN for furtherance
westward. Cannot tell you the numbers, but they are referred
to by the CP amd CN yard people as "ad hoc" trains.
Which is a bit odd for sure, my understanding of
"ad hoc" is one time. There is the odd train also that goes
eastward on the CN for furtherance to Ridley Island terminal.
Now that Roberts Bank has had it's capacity cut in half until
probably late next March, there will probably be more of these
trains.
Sid.



Date: 12/16/12 21:54
Re: c.p. kamloops-banff info needed
Author: dizzy85

Yes, CN has coal trains that load at Sparwood. These trains run on CP track with CP power but they are CN coal trains. I believe their train symbols while on CP track are 884/885 or 898/899 and on CN lines they become 798/799 and 796/797.



Date: 12/16/12 22:07
Re: c.p. kamloops-banff info needed
Author: toledopatch

"Ad hoc" doesn't mean just "one time" -- it also connotes informality or things of a temporary nature.



Date: 12/17/12 09:10
Re: c.p. kamloops-banff info needed
Author: telegraphboy

Another thing that might be of interest to your despatching
simulation. The CP often drops off power units at Geddes,
which is 20 or so miles east of Kamloops. The westbounds
drop them off, the eastbounds pick them up. I can get you
the exact mileages if you need that.
Sid.



Date: 12/18/12 17:29
Re: c.p. kamloops-banff info needed
Author: goneon66

thanks for the info everybody........

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