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Date: 12/06/18 16:26
CN oddballs
Author: hoggerdoug

CN 9300 & 9301 at Calder shops, Edmonton, Alberta way back February 1984. I don't know much about these units except they are the only two?? GP35's CN had and were originally numbered 4000 & 4001. When I photographed them, both were dead and obviously not fit for service. Wonder what they were doing there and their final disposition.
Doug



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/06/18 16:27 by hoggerdoug.






Date: 12/06/18 16:58
Re: CN oddballs
Author: cn6218

The TSG says that both GP35s were retired in 1984, and that 9300 went to Dakota, Missouri Valley & Western (no date).  9301 may have just been scrapped.

It's interesting to see that the dynamic brake fans are missing from both of these, same as the other CN 9300s (GP40s 9302-9317).  I wonder what CN's reasoning was when they were removed?

Here's one from the second group, RLK 4095 (former 9304) working for GEXR in Guelph on what is once again a CN-operated line.  Although you can't tell from the angle of this photo, it's still missing its dynamic brake fan.

GTD




Date: 12/07/18 15:21
Re: CN oddballs
Author: eminence_grise

Back in the 1960's, a group of us were trainwatchers in Montreal, some with family connections to CP and CN headquarters. However, that said, we weren't party to anything but rumours from the motive power departments of the two Montreal based railways, CP and CN.

CP chose GP35's for their fast intermodal freights in eastern Canada, and acquired a small fleet. CP's 35's had several reliability issues, many centered around the electrical cabinet functions.

In time, CP rebuilt them with Dash 2 electronics, and other upgrades, and they had long careers, although not in front line service.

CN just had the two GP35's.

We always wondered if someone at CN had lunch with a counterpart at CP, who warned them off a large purchase of GP35's

CN also didn't buy GP30's, CP had two, again with certain issues.
Other railroads in the US had issues with the GP35's, and it could be that CN talked to them too. I don't know if CN's GP35's pre-dated CP's fleet, in which case our theories could have been all wrong.

 



Date: 12/08/18 22:35
Re: CN oddballs
Author: feclark

eminence_grise Wrote:
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> Back in the 1960's, a group of us were
> trainwatchers in Montreal, some with family
> connections to CP and CN headquarters. However,
> that said, we weren't party to anything but
> rumours from the motive power departments of the
> two Montreal based railways, CP and CN.
>
> CP chose GP35's for their fast intermodal freights
> in eastern Canada, and acquired a small fleet.
> CP's 35's had several reliability issues, many
> centered around the electrical cabinet functions.
>
> In time, CP rebuilt them with Dash 2 electronics,
> and other upgrades, and they had long careers,
> although not in front line service.
>
> CN just had the two GP35's.
>
> We always wondered if someone at CN had lunch with
> a counterpart at CP, who warned them off a large
> purchase of GP35's
>
> CN also didn't buy GP30's, CP had two, again with
> certain issues.
> Other railroads in the US had issues with the
> GP35's, and it could be that CN talked to them
> too. I don't know if CN's GP35's pre-dated CP's
> fleet, in which case our theories could have been
> all wrong.
>
>  

I just checked Peter Cox's "Locomotives From London" book (UCRS 1968), and the CN units were interspersed with CP's. CN 4000 and 4001 were built in August 1964, with the book noting that 4001 was used components removed from several damaged CN units (the book doesn't specify). CP 5002-5013 were built May-June 1964, before CN, then CP 5014-5023 May-August 1965 from trade-in units, followed by 5024 and 5025 in January 1966. For both roads, the assignments are noted as fast freight, Montreal-Toronto-then Calgary or Edmonton, as appropriate to CP and CN, respectively.
Fred



Date: 12/09/18 05:26
Re: CN oddballs
Author: Bob3985

And then there is the interesting outside braced former boxcar behind the unit.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY



Date: 12/09/18 10:07
Re: CN oddballs
Author: hoggerdoug

Behing the boxcar was a very old tank car. If I took images ot them, I don't know. DUH.
Doug

Bob3985 Wrote:
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> And then there is the interesting outside braced
> former boxcar behind the unit.



Date: 12/09/18 11:48
Re: CN oddballs
Author: thehighwayman

Bob3985 Wrote:
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> And then there is the interesting outside braced
> former boxcar behind the unit.

Probably in MOW service ...

 

Will MacKenzie
Dundas, ON



Date: 12/09/18 12:24
Re: CN oddballs
Author: eminence_grise

It says "------- test car". I'm guessing it as a portable load test device. These were used at diesel shops to test the electrical output from the main generator or traction motors of a locomotive being tested. Often these devices were banks of dynamic brake grids from scrapped locomotives. The test racks required the same cooling fans as locomotives.



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