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Date: 02/08/19 14:36
CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: rodp




Date: 02/08/19 15:31
Re: CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: trainjunkie

I'm just getting a paywall at that link.

 



Date: 02/08/19 16:21
Re: CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: up833

Click on the Globe2Go new site then select Todays Paper.  Front page item.
New news I think to TO is the first crew had to put the train in Emergency because they had exceeded the rule of not exceeding 15mph. They got to 20 and put it in Emergency. New rule requires setting 25 handbrakes as well as retainers on all cars.
RB



Date: 02/08/19 17:54
Re: CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: trainjunkie

up833 Wrote:
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> Click on the Globe2Go new site then select Todays
> Paper. 

This probably isn't allowed but I had so much trouble reading that stupid on-line front page on my Mac that I made some captures of the story and stitched them together.




Date: 02/08/19 18:39
Re: CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: HotWater

Now THAT is very strange, as I read in the rule book, posted on the other thread, that for that territory, ALL HANDBRAKES must be applied, especially after an uncontrolled stop or emergency air brake application. The key phrase was "all handbrakes" were to be applied prior to attempting to recover the air.



Date: 02/08/19 18:49
Re: CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: Ray_Murphy

Let's hear it for one-man crews in mountain territory!

Ray



Date: 02/08/19 19:17
Re: CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: darkcloud

HotWater Wrote:
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> Now THAT is very strange, as I read in the rule
> book, posted on the other thread, that for that
> territory, ALL HANDBRAKES must be applied,
> especially after an uncontrolled stop or emergency
> air brake application. The key phrase was "all
> handbrakes" were to be applied prior to attempting
> to recover the air.


That rulebook was from 2008.  Hunter Harrison took over in 2012, I wonder if he modified their rule book? 

He did when taking over CSX, some changes were good, some were bad.  And some clearly unsafe changes made simply to make work conditions harder, hoping to encourage more employees to quit.  Recall how he bragged about doing more with fewer employees and the stockholders squealed with glee.   I don't know about Canada but there's CSX blood on his hands.



Date: 02/08/19 19:43
Re: CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: Marcus

Transport Canada has now made an Order under the Railway Safety Act
that hand brakes must be applied to trains stopped in emergency on mountain grades.

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-canada/news/2019/02/minister-garneau-orders-precautionary-safety-measures-following-canadian-pacific-derailment-near-field-british-columbia.html
 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/08/19 21:41 by Marcus.



Date: 02/08/19 20:04
Re: CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: HotWater

Marcus Wrote:
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> It’s not just CP.
> Transport Canada has made an Order under The
> Railway Safety Act that hand brakes be applied to
> trains stopped in emergency on mountain grades.
>
> https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-canada/news/201
> 9/02/minister-garneau-orders-precautionary-safety-
> measures-following-canadian-pacific-derailment-nea
> r-field-british-columbia.html

And there you have it folks!!!!!!!!  Just my opinion but, the previous crew unknowingly set a BIG trap for the relieving crew.



Date: 02/09/19 05:17
Re: CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: trainjunkie

Does Canada (CROR or other ops docs) provide a clear definintion of "Mountain grade"?



Date: 02/10/19 06:04
Re: CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: cn6218

trainjunkie Wrote:
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> Does Canada (CROR or other ops docs) provide a
> clear definintion of "Mountain grade"?

I couldn't find the exact source, but I believe anything over 1.8% is a "Mountain Grade".  Between 0.8 and 1.8% for 2 miles or more is considered a "Heavy Grade".  I'll keep looking for the citation.

GTD



Date: 02/10/19 09:10
Re: CP Rail alters handbrake rules after B.C. derailment
Author: FiestaFoamer

According to that accident report from 1997 in the other thread (footnote, page 5), 1.8% + is considered a mountain grade.



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