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European Railroad Discussion > Brenner Pass September 2018Date: 10/26/18 04:00 Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave late September i spent a week in Italy coming in from Innsbruck i took time to spend an afternoon at St Jodok just on the Austrian side of the border
freights were running at regular intervals and a few inter city trains as well the scenery speaks for itself the electrified roundhouse at Innsbruck with the cobweb of catenery Date: 10/26/18 04:02 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave Brennero ,Italian steel train departing southbound.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/18 04:31 by bakersfielddave. Date: 10/26/18 04:04 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave Date: 10/26/18 04:05 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave OBB local electric train hraded for Innsbruck from Brennero at St Jodok ...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/18 04:32 by bakersfielddave. Date: 10/26/18 04:06 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave the sign says dont go any further.. crossing the line is verboten.....
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/18 04:36 by bakersfielddave. Date: 10/26/18 04:07 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave Date: 10/26/18 04:08 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave Date: 10/26/18 04:09 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave Date: 10/26/18 04:17 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave .....;some of the freights were only a block behind each other and a few had to wait for a few minutes for clearance
the majority are conveying trucks and their drivers accomodated in a coach a number had manned helper engines as the grade is very severe here You must be a registered subscriber to watch videos. Join Today! Date: 10/26/18 04:30 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave ,..,
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Date: 10/26/18 09:19 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: CA_Sou_MA_Agent This past June my family and I rode a train from Rosenheim, Germany to Bologna, Italy and we passed through there. It's truly a amazing stretch of railroad. At Brennero they were setting retainers for our descent.
On the Italian side, I would have liked to have ridden the line before the 4.5-mile Pflersch Tunnel was built, which was completed in 1999. This replaced a scenic and circuitous line segment that featured the 2,946 foot spiral Astor Tunnel. The old right of way is now a hiking and biking trail, complete with an abandoned station. https://goo.gl/maps/7nWyFC1vEfQ2 This whole area and operation pattern will drastically change after the now-under-construction 34-mile Brenner Base Tunnel opens, scheduled for 2026. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/18 21:35 by CA_Sou_MA_Agent. Date: 10/26/18 09:42 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: BobB With all of the trains and the wonderful scenery, why in the world do you need an Outlet Center at the Brenner Pass or anywhere else in the Alps? It's worse than having outlet malls on the Oregon coast (which we unfortunately do). Get out of the stores and hike in, or at least look at, the mountains.
Date: 10/26/18 10:32 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: pennengineer BobB Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > With all of the trains and the wonderful scenery, > why in the world do you need an Outlet Center at > the Brenner Pass or anywhere else in the Alps? > It's worse than having outlet malls on the Oregon > coast (which we unfortunately do). Get out of > the stores and hike in, or at least look at, the > mountains. While I personally agree with you, don't forget that there are of course people who live in the Alps who need to shop (and for whom the scenery is an everyday thing). But the main reason for having one here is the fact that they can tap into the *massive* market of northern and central Europeans who travel this route to holiday in the Alps or in the warmer climes of Italy. The topography actually channels your customer base onto but a few main routes (primarily: Brenner, Semmering, Gotthard, and Lötschberg). It's pretty much the same reason why you often find outlet centers near major highways. Where there is traffic, there are potential customers -- simple as that. Date: 10/26/18 10:33 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: CPRR I want to retire to there....
Date: 10/26/18 14:56 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: 86235 BobB Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Get out of the stores and hike in, or at least look at, the > mountains. Well said Date: 10/26/18 17:40 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave some more
southbound OBB freights seem to coast into Brennero yard with the Pantographs lowered then stop for a loco change this fully loaded southbound auto train ....can any one tell us the model of the cars being conveyed and about how many there are ? You must be a registered subscriber to watch videos. Join Today! Date: 10/26/18 17:51 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave ...helper engine returning from Brennero towards Innsbruck ,sometimes these were attached to the rear of northbound freights to provide extra braking
local train heading south southbound intermodal lightly loaded You must be a registered subscriber to watch videos. Join Today! Date: 10/26/18 18:07 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: bakersfielddave northbound truck train with specially painted Berlin loco many truckers were at windows taking photos enjoying the views on every rola train
and the obligatory 'station cat '..although this one seemed to be interested in something below in a field Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/18 23:59 by bakersfielddave. You must be a registered subscriber to watch videos. Join Today! Date: 10/26/18 22:38 Re: Brenner Pass September 2018 Author: SOO6617 bakersfielddave Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > some more > > southbound OBB freights seem to coast into > Brennero yard with the Pantographs lowered then > stop for a loco change Power supply changes part way down the yard track, from 15kV 16.7 Hz AC in Austria to 3kV DC in Italy. Normally the Austrian locomotives are shunted back to their own end by a diesel, but occasionally they are just kick back to the Austrian end by an Italian e-lok. Then of course many newer locomotives are multi-system so all they need to do is switch which pantograph they are using, of course they do have to coast through the neutral section. > this fully loaded southbound auto train ....can > any one tell us the model of the cars being > conveyed and about how many there are ? It looks like various Volkswagen Group products. No idea how many are being carried. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/18 22:43 by SOO6617. |