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Date: 10/29/22 17:54
New Line or Dual Gauge btw Poland and Ukraine Considered?
Author: wabash2800




Date: 10/30/22 15:15
Re: New Line or Dual Gauge btw Poland and Ukraine Considered?
Author: Lackawanna484

Good luck with that project.  Any new project intended to link Ukraine with the west, would likely be standard European gauge. I don't see anything designed to Russian standards getting very far in today's Ukraine.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/22 06:56 by Lackawanna484.



Date: 11/06/22 05:04
Re: New Line or Dual Gauge btw Poland and Ukraine Considered?
Author: march_hare

Wouldn't it be easier, engineering wise, to narrow an existing broad gauge track than broaden a standard one?  Save lots of money on ties, anyway. 



Date: 11/06/22 13:16
Re: New Line or Dual Gauge btw Poland and Ukraine Considered?
Author: grahamline

If you search for a more authoritative source than Yahoo, you find this: https://www.railfreight.com/corridors/2022/10/31/not-broad-gauge-to-europe-but-normal-gauge-to-ukraine/?gdpr=accept

This proposal, if it's the same one Victor is talking about, concerns switching from Russian broad-gauge that was common in old Soviet-affiliate areas, to the 4'-8 1/2".



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/22 13:19 by grahamline.



Date: 11/28/22 16:59
Re: New Line or Dual Gauge btw Poland and Ukraine Considered?
Author: gobbl3gook

You can see the current gauge map here.  

https://www.openrailwaymap.org/?style=gauge&lat=52.633062890594374&lon=23.09326171875&zoom=7

Broad gauge runs as far as Katowice in south central Poland.  But it still require a couple hundred kms of broad gauge track to get up to Bailystok/Kanaus for the broad gauge to the port of Klaipeda, Lithuania.  Or up to Gdansk.  

Much easier, I imagine, would be to convert a couple strings of existing railcars to have variable length axles?  To cross from Ukraine into Poland, then into Lithuania?  

Ted in OR



Date: 11/29/22 06:34
Re: New Line or Dual Gauge btw Poland and Ukraine Considered?
Author: Lackawanna484

That seems feasible from an engineering standpoint.

But it would require crossing the Lithuanian owned Russian supply rail line into Kaliningrad, formerly East Prussia.

The Russians would undoubtedly be on edge as it is a major naval facility.

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