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European Railroad Discussion > Southeast FranceDate: 03/31/25 20:27 Southeast France Author: symph1 I made two trips to Bourg Ste. Maurice since Christmas: one from London and then to Nice, and one to and from the Lyon–Saint Exupéry Airport TGV station. Coming from London I changed to TGV in Lille Europe, to avoid changing stations in Paris. I made a total of 9 connections, wherever the SNCF app told me to go. Every single train was exactly on time. Connections were also in Lyon Part Dieu (the main downtown station), Montmelian, Grenoble, Chambery, Valence TGV, and Valence Ville.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/31/25 20:44 by symph1. ![]() ![]() ![]() Date: 03/31/25 20:28 Re: Southeast France Author: symph1 Date: 03/31/25 20:31 Re: Southeast France Author: symph1 A study in contrasts: Lyon airport TGV station, as seen from the airport (walkway on right so you never go outside) and inside; the beautiful old station in Nice.
![]() ![]() ![]() Date: 03/31/25 20:33 Re: Southeast France Author: symph1 Date: 03/31/25 20:34 Re: Southeast France Author: symph1 Date: 03/31/25 20:37 Re: Southeast France Author: symph1 1. These older coaches are very comfortable, though the bathrooms are not very modern. Taken at Valence Ville (downtown, as opposed to the TGV line station). I rode one of the blue regional trains Bourg Ste Maurice to Montmelian, then this train to Valence Ville, and a TGV from here to Lyon–Saint Exupéry Airport TGV station.
2. Seen from one of my trains. Thanks for looking. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/31/25 20:42 by symph1. ![]() ![]() Date: 04/01/25 04:09 Re: Southeast France Author: dan great variety!
Date: 04/01/25 17:50 Re: Southeast France Author: dwatry Spotted a few "Nez Caisses" I see! Cool locos.
Date: 04/02/25 09:30 Re: Southeast France Author: ironmtn Another very interesting report on your travels to Bourg Ste. Maurice. Thanks for the great coverage and photos.
MC Date: 04/02/25 22:52 Re: Southeast France Author: SOO6617 symph1 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > 1. These older coaches are very comfortable, > though the bathrooms are not very modern. Taken at > Valence Ville (downtown, as opposed to the TGV > line station). I rode one of the blue regional > trains Bourg Ste Maurice to Montmelian, then this > train to Valence Ville, and a TGV from here to > Lyon–Saint Exupéry Airport TGV station. Note this locomotive has an "R" suffix, this means that the locomotive is restricted to 1.5kV DC lines only. Date: 04/28/25 17:35 Re: Southeast France Author: Steinzeit2 SOO6617 Wrote:
> Note this locomotive has an "R" suffix, this > means > that the locomotive is restricted to 1.5kV DC > lines > only. Wouldn't that train have run via Grenoble, which is AC I think except for the stations at each endpoint mentioned ? To stay DC only it would have to run vis Amberieu and Lyon, I believe. I was thinking the R might indicate "Reversibilité" ? With best regards, SZ Date: 04/29/25 18:38 Re: Southeast France Author: SOO6617 Steinzeit2 Wrote:
--------------------------------------------------- > Wouldn't that train have run via Grenoble, which > is AC I think except for the stations at each > endpoint mentioned ? To stay DC only it would > have to run vis Amberieu and Lyon, I believe. I > was thinking the R might indicate "Reversibilité" > ? > With the run-down of locomotive hauled passenger trains, SNCF Intercités has reduced maintenance on the locomotives and the AC side of these locomotives has greater complexity. Either the Tap Changer or the Transformer can be the source of the problem. From an original total of 205 locomotives built, less than fifty are still operational and many (most?) are now restricted to the DC lines. BB7200 are even more restricted and fewer remain. With Fret SNCF's problems it is a similar problem with their much newer Alstom Prima BB27000 locomotives with many having the "R" branding. I haven't seen a Sybic with the "R" but their numbers are dwindling too. Date: 04/30/25 13:29 Re: Southeast France Author: 86235 SOO6617 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > > Note this locomotive has an "R" suffix, this > means > that the locomotive is restricted to 1.5kV DC > lines > only. According to Platform 5's French Railways - Locomotives & Multiple Units the R means they're equipped for push-pull operation. |