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Date: 03/15/12 10:47
Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: m1bprr

Well once again the DL's 3642 involved in a major derailment on Bridge 60 at Steamtown, word has it a rail turned over. A little too much of a DL in house fix this time. Winters Rigging with "sidewinders" to the rescue! An interesting March 15Th. for OH WELL PRODUCTIONS.
Ed K. cp Laurel Run








Date: 03/15/12 10:51
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: m1bprr

Ed K.








Date: 03/15/12 10:53
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: m1bprr

3642 back on rails with minor damage to the pilot. All is well that ends well!
Is this Alco a Hoo Doo engine?
Ed K. cp Laurel Run




Date: 03/15/12 10:55
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: Mgoldman

Wow.... that looks scary. On the bridge, no less.

I hope Steamtown doesn't fence the entire park up now.
"Everyone stay between the yellow lines!". Ugh.

Maybe it's time to replace the rest of the track vrs
just the yard leads.

I know someone who should be asking at the next round
of PA DOT grants.

/Mitch



Date: 03/15/12 11:17
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: calsubd

Thanks for the coverage Ed,, Ed



Date: 03/15/12 12:16
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: zzzzz

Time to invest in the track all the way to Slateford.



Date: 03/15/12 12:43
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: RDG630

Grat photos Ed, thanks for sharing.



Date: 03/15/12 12:49
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: Out_Of_Service

looks like 130 lb joint bars on the rail ... that should be heavy enough for those big six axle units



Date: 03/15/12 13:11
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: zzzzz

But how old is the track? I'm saying since the Erie Lackawanna. Put that into your URL and watch the sway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8O4X8vPWVg



Date: 03/15/12 13:50
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: EL-SD45-3632

"How old is the Track"...rails, ties and roadbed in my mind make up the "track", is this what you are referring to?



Date: 03/15/12 14:12
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: zzzzz

Mainly the rail since it causes most derailments.



Date: 03/15/12 14:38
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: TrainChaser

If the rail rolled out, that would lead me to believe it was poor tie conditions or lack of fasteners more so than bad rail.

Posted from iPhone

Tim Rich
At The BE 132 In Lima, OH



Date: 03/15/12 15:37
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: Out_Of_Service

TrainChaser Wrote:
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> If the rail rolled out, that would lead me to
> believe it was poor tie conditions or lack of
> fasteners more so than bad rail.
>
> Posted from iPhone

i concur



Date: 03/15/12 16:40
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: BaltoJoey

If someone was riding in that unit. They may have soiled their shorts. That stuff is especially scary, when it happens on a bridge!

BaltoJoey



Date: 03/15/12 17:59
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: TrackOne

DL 3642 was built 4/1968 for Penn Central's heavy mineral trains. It weighs in at 420,000 lbs., similar in weight to a SD90MAC. Its huge.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/12 17:59 by TrackOne.



Date: 03/15/12 18:07
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: m1bprr

TrackOne Wrote:
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> DL 3642 was built 4/1968 for Penn Central's heavy
> mineral trains. It weighs in at 420,000 lbs.,
> similar in weight to a SD90MAC. Its huge.

She came to the Delaware Lackawanna looking like this.
Ed K.




Date: 03/15/12 19:06
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: elu34ch

TrackOne Wrote:
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DL 3642 was built 4/1968 for Penn Central's heavy mineral trains. It weighs in at 420,000 lbs.,
similar in weight to a SD90MAC. Its huge.

Other than railfan's irrational dreams/fantasies- it makes no sense to have C-C power on this railroad. NYSW endured millions of dollars of losses using C-C power on their tired physical plant in the late 80s-90s. Poor business decision. Shippers get tired and tone-deaf to delays.



Date: 03/15/12 20:15
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: nhiwwrr

zzzzz Wrote:
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> Mainly the rail since it causes most derailments.

I find this statement amusing.

Rail does not cause derailments, it's what supports it (ballast, ties, plates, spikes/clips) or lack there of that does.

Main rail related cause of derailments are broken rail (and even that can be attributed to the support system of said rail.

Worn rail can cause derailments, at switches in particular. But a rolled rail is not the fault of the rail itself.



Date: 03/16/12 06:11
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: ddkid

m1bprr Wrote:
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> TrackOne Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > DL 3642 was built 4/1968 for Penn Central's
> heavy
> > mineral trains. It weighs in at 420,000 lbs.,
> > similar in weight to a SD90MAC. Its huge.
>
> She came to the Delaware Lackawanna looking like
> this.
> Ed K.

I really like the Magic Marker number boards!



Date: 03/16/12 08:14
Re: Delaware Lackawanna derailment
Author: elu34ch

ED: Thanks for the pictures and your dedication to bringing this info to the community.



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