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Date: 05/11/18 18:28
"Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: ut-1

NYS&W GP40 No. 3040 and leased CSX GP38 No. 2782 are featured here bringing a 13-car train down Utica, NY's Schuyler Street late afternoon today.

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Date: 05/11/18 19:11
Re: "Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: bluesboyst

Was that a siding that was abandoned take branched off to the right at the old tower?



Date: 05/11/18 20:02
Re: "Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: exhaustED

Very nicely done.



Date: 05/12/18 03:12
Re: "Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: kgmontreal

Do they really need the leased CSX unit?

KG



Date: 05/12/18 05:03
Re: "Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: ut-1

kgmontreal Wrote:
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> Do they really need the leased CSX unit?
>
> KG

Yes, believe it or not, No. 3040 is limited to taking 7 loads up Paris Hill’s twisty 1.8% grade. With the significant annual spring increase in ag product to the big mills in Sangerfield, train size increases to a max of 14 loads with 2 engines. The extra engine will be off-branch by late June.

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Date: 05/12/18 07:48
Re: "Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: pal77

kgmontreal Wrote:
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> Do they really need the leased CSX unit?
>
> KG

The road as a whole has an agreement to lease 4-6 CSAO units usually GP-38 types but I have seen GP and SD-40's as well. Because its shared assets agreement the units are a mix of NS and CSX variety. The agreement dates back to the sale of most of their 4 axle local power (GP-18s and GP38/40) except as seen here the 3040.



Date: 05/12/18 11:06
Re: "Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: BobP

The tower. Is that a local historical landmark?
I didn't know any existed any more.



Date: 05/12/18 15:31
Re: "Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: ns1000

Thanks for the video.



Date: 05/13/18 15:48
Re: "Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: krm152

Excellent video. Thanks for posting.
ALLEN



Date: 05/13/18 17:08
Re: "Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: train1275

Reminiscent of the old days with the respectably sized train.
Nice video.

I do miss the friendly wave from the tower, the Blue Line and of course the trailing caboose.



Date: 05/14/18 09:04
Re: "Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: CPRR

bluesboyst Wrote:
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> Was that a siding that was abandoned take branched
> off to the right at the old tower?

Well I am from the left coast, but according to Historical ariels, there was a large group of structures off this branch. If you Google Sat view this line, you can see where the spur went to. Lots of large graded lots, so they (the older buildings-mills, factories....) where.

Who does this line have for customers currently?

Also, I agree, the tower is cool, and I hope it gets preserved some how.



Date: 05/14/18 09:10
Re: "Schuyler Street Doubleheader" NYS&W Utica, NY
Author: train1275

The old siding was a track built by the DL&W along the old alignment of the Erie Canal known as the Blue Line. It was about 1.8 miles long or thereabouts and torn out in the 1990's by NYSW as business dried up or relocated. It basically parallels Oriskany Boulevard. The original canal alignment was somewhat along what is now Oriskany Blvd and was relocated in 1918 as part of the NYS Barge Canal project.

The crossing tower erected in 1952 by the DL&W is a preservation project of the Utica & Mohawk Valley Chapter, NRHS. It was automated in 1987 by NYS&W. It protected the cross streets on Schuyler and controlled the gates on Oriskany Blvd.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/14/18 09:11 by train1275.



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