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Date: 08/09/18 04:50
Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: toledopatch

Sounds like NS was running another detour via the Delaware Division and it hit the dirt:

http://wnbf.com/train-derailment-reported-in-delaware-county/



Date: 08/09/18 04:54
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: PCCRNSEngr

No details on what train but expect cause due to heavy flooding in the area.



Date: 08/09/18 04:57
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: waivethefive

Didn't hear anything about NS running another detour. Nothing was showing planned to go west. NYSW SU99 was coming west last night though. Was probably them.

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Date: 08/09/18 04:58
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: JPB

Don't know for sure but the guess on NYSW Facebook page was the derailed train was NYSW SU-99 given it derailed at around 0230. Train crew is OK but two cars are in the Delaware River. Derailment was due to culvert washout after  last night's heavy rains.

http://www.wbng.com/story/38846595/train-derailment-in-deposit
 



Date: 08/09/18 05:11
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: JPB

NYS&W has had a bad summer with the bridge side wall collapse in Syracuse, the bridge collapse at Overpeck Creek in NJ, and now this derailment. Hopefully bad events don't occur in fours.



Date: 08/09/18 05:35
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: toledopatch

Silly me. Just because the news item said NS personnel were at the scene apparently can't be interpreted to mean an NS train was involved.
 



Date: 08/09/18 05:47
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: Lackawanna484

What's the speed limit on the old Delaware Division?

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Date: 08/09/18 06:12
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: cjvrr

The bridge over the Hackensack River was also placed out of service until further notice on Tuesday.   I have not heard what caused that to happen but I would guess since a portion of the Overpeck bridge fell in the river and the Syracuse bridge fascia collapse the railroad and perhaps the FRA are checking the other bridges much more closely. 

Lots of flash flooding in the Deposit area yesterday. 



Date: 08/09/18 08:24
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: sixaxlecentury

Its 99.   3 SD60s and one other engine, Not quite on there sides but with significant damage.   Crew is OK.   



Date: 08/09/18 09:57
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: dschlegel

Can double stacks be brought down the Lehigh Line to Allentown then on to NJ as an alternate to the NYSW?
Dan

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Date: 08/09/18 10:00
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: waivethefive

dschlegel Wrote:
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> Can double stacks be brought down the Lehigh Line
> to Allentown then on to NJ as an alternate to the
> NYSW?
> Dan
>
> Posted from iPhone

Yes but there isn't a reason to do so. Detours have stopped running.

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Date: 08/09/18 10:57
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: Lackawanna484

sixaxlecentury Wrote:
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> Its 99.   3 SD60s and one other engine, Not
> quite on there sides but with significant
> damage.   

The 60s are NYSW's standard road power to NJ.  I wonder how they'll handle this?


>Crew is OK.   

Good news, has to be a scary experience.



Date: 08/09/18 11:07
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: CNJ1524




Date: 08/09/18 15:10
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: pal77

>
> The 60s are NYSW's standard road power to NJ.  I
> wonder how they'll handle this?
>
Maybe 3634 comes back on line as well as the T-2’s. Also I’m sure CR would lease some sd40 types as they have in the past. Or just under power 99/100. I would bet that 2 60’s could handle these trains on most nights.

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Date: 08/10/18 01:08
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: JPB




Date: 08/11/18 11:51
Re: Train derailment east of Binghamton on ex-Erie
Author: PlyWoody

The wreck was caused by the failure of the New York, Susquehanna & Western RR to comply to FRA track inspection Rule $213.239: "Special Inspection":
"In the event of fire, flood, severe storm, of other occurrence which might have damaged track structure, a special inspection must be made of the track involved as soon as possible after the occurrence". 

Deposit and several of the towns' in the valley around the railroad declared a 'state of emergency' during those tremendous down pours of rain that evening.  Any railroad track running through the area of a 'state of emergency' should be declared out of service track till inspection.  NYS&W has a set policy of only Tuesday and Thursday track inspection.  Their management and dispatchers seem to ignore the requirements of $213.239.  The NYS&W should have their MofW employees phone the office if they every hear of a 'state of emergency' along their lines.  The company should be on the contact list of all the adjacent town governments. 

Why do we keep having these failures to order track inspection for flood events?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/11/18 12:15 by PlyWoody.



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