Eastern Railroad Discussion > NS #1065 Damaged While On The UP???

Hearing that the NS heritage S&A Savannah & Atlanta SD70ACe #1065 may have, again may have been damaged while in service on the UP???
Anyone have any credible info related to the status of this NS Heritage Unit???
Thanks
NSSpike

Phil Maton
Villa Rica, GA



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/18 05:12 by NSSpike.

The incident occurred after UP interchanged it back to NS.

So what happened?

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Doug Wetherhold
Macungie, PA

Every time that NS Savannah & Atlanta unit is interchanged to UP I hope it doesn't get destroyed on Sherman Hill...

Sideswipe incident in the NS yard at North Kansas City.

Posted from iPhone

This comment is completely out of line.  Two railroaders lost their lives in the wreck that you are no doubt making light of.  

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CSX602 Wrote:
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> Every time that NS Savannah & Atlanta unit is
> interchanged to UP I hope it doesn't get destroyed
> on Sherman Hill...

This, this right here is why we don’t like y’all.
CSX602 Wrote:
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> Every time that NS Savannah & Atlanta unit is
> interchanged to UP I hope it doesn't get destroyed
> on Sherman Hill...

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Actually my comment had nothing to do with the recent terrible accident on UP, and if you recall Civil War history you might have realized that...

For those who missed that Civil War history class Savannah and Atlanta (and the towns between) were burned by General William Sherman (the first, and hopefully only, US military general to ever direct his troops to target ordinary non-armed citizens and whom Sherman, Wyoming - at Sherman's request - and thus Sherman Hill are regretfully named for).

Rathole Wrote:
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> This comment is completely out of line.  Two
> railroaders lost their lives in the wreck that you
> are no doubt making light of.  
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> CSX602 Wrote:
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> > Every time that NS Savannah & Atlanta unit is
> > interchanged to UP I hope it doesn't get
> destroyed
> > on Sherman Hill...



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/19/18 21:50 by CSX602.

CSX602 Wrote:
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> Actually my comment had nothing to do with the
> recent terrible accident on UP, and if you recall
> Civil War history you might have realized that...
>
> For those who missed that Civil War history class
> Savannah and Atlanta (and the towns between) were
> burned by General William Sherman (the first, and
> hopefully only, US military general to ever direct
> his troops to target ordinary non-armed citizens
> and whom Sherman, Wyoming - at Sherman's request -
> and thus Sherman Hill are regretfully named for).
>
> Rathole Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This comment is completely out of line.  Two
> > railroaders lost their lives in the wreck that
> you
> > are no doubt making light of.  
> >
> >
> ==================================================
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> > ========================================
> >
> > CSX602 Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Every time that NS Savannah & Atlanta unit is
> > > interchanged to UP I hope it doesn't get
> > destroyed
> > > on Sherman Hill...

You need to go back to class. Savannah wasn't burned.

Posted from Android

Nice backpedaling CSX602.

Posted from iPhone

I'm not backpedaling one bit...   (I didn't realize until Rathole brought it up that the recent bad UP run away accident was on that section...)

After burning Atlanta Sherman set out in his "march to the sea" with his troops burning towns and private homes all the way to Savannah where they burned homes, factories and railroad facilities, before turning north into the Carolinas...  At the time all was against the orders of Presdient Lincoln and against the Lieber Code (you can look that up online too because many current history books omit the atrocities committed by the US Army under Sherman in both the Civil War and the later war on native Americans)...

I've got an idea...   
Perhaps Union Pacific should rename that grade in Wyoming in honor of the train crewmen who have lost their lives there...  Call it something like "Bravery Hill"...  Because they all deserve it more than Sherman ever did.

 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/20/18 15:20 by CSX602.

Sorry CSX602, Sherman was right. He was one of the first to understand what total war was and that driving a dagger through the heart of the civilian population would do more to bring the South to it's knees and end the war than anything else he could have done.  Sherman had his flaws and faults, but like Patton 80 years later, he was operating in mode that was beyond comprehension for most people at the time.  Sherman march to the see was a hell of a lot more effective and probably cost fewer lives than that useless siege of Richmond that Grant seemed welded to.

The general consensus, even in the 1860s was that Sherman was a war criminal...  What he did to the native American tribes in following years only proved it.
It is only fitting that the town named for him, at his request, is now a ghost town (and has been for nearly a century).
And any modern corporation bearing his name or using his name for a major route should rethink their patronage of a war criminal.
It is time for Union Pacific to rename anything they have using Sherman's name.  There have been many past employees more fitting to be recognized or honored.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/20/18 21:54 by CSX602.

Most of that "consensus" came from southern writers and historians, bitter about what happened.  What Sherman did was no different than the ariel bombing campaigns we carried out in World War II.  The civilians feed and supply the armies, and one of the best ways to stop the armies is take away their supply chain.  It's the same reason Phil Sheridan burned all of the farms in the Shenandoah Valley, because it deprived the Confederate army of food, and broke the will of the civilians to continue on with the war.  As for what happened later with the native Americans, I will not defend what what on but will say that right or wrong, Sherman, Custer, Sheridan and the rest were carrying out government policy. That's what soldiers do.

Of course, Custer got Siouxed for it......

Mary McPherson
Dongola, IL
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