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Date: 06/05/19 16:36
Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: 6088

Good evening,

I was poking around on Google Earth and saw an odd 4 light signal mounted on top of a telephone type pole in the yard, and I can see no reason for it, anyone have any ideas?

Thank you,

6088

 




Date: 06/05/19 16:42
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: OHRY

If it's that shadow just above your pin that's most likely a light tower.

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Date: 06/05/19 16:54
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: 6088

Thank you for your reply, there are yard lights in the area, but this is certainly a signal.

 




Date: 06/05/19 18:06
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: Jimbo

A switching signal?



Date: 06/05/19 18:09
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: engineerinvirginia

Perhaps it has red green yellow and lunar therefore four lights, it would likely display on one aspect at a time provided that one aspect signals are on NS's signal rules. Such a signal might be seen in the vicinity of yards.....where slow speeds are expected and signals are used for crowding trains together. 



Date: 06/05/19 18:45
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: ERAD

Hump signal? Before radios some yards used these signals to communicate with the Engineer to stop, back-up, shove slow and shove fast. 



Date: 06/05/19 18:47
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: OHRY

Possibly a hump signal used to communicate without a radio. Green would be hump fast, yellow hump slow, red stop. Probably have the 4th aspect to indicate reverse. Here in Allentown our reverse was simply Yellow/Red at the same time.

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Date: 06/06/19 02:03
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: Notch7

OHRY Wrote:
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> Possibly a hump signal used to communicate without
> a radio. Green would be hump fast, yellow hump
> slow, red stop. Probably have the 4th aspect to
> indicate reverse. Here in Allentown our reverse
> was simply Yellow/Red at the same time.
>
At the SAL's North Yard in Hamlet NC we humped with cab signals and a mast signal.  The 4 aspects were green, yellow, red, and double red.  Double red meant back up.  



Date: 06/06/19 03:18
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: CPR_4000

Notch7 Wrote:
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> At the SAL's North Yard in Hamlet NC we humped
> with cab signals and a mast signal.

Seaboard had cab signals? Like Pennsy?



Date: 06/06/19 04:31
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: Mouse

Hump signal, no longer used. Hump and pull back done with remote control.



Date: 06/06/19 10:16
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: Notch7

CPR_4000 Wrote:

> Seaboard had cab signals? Like Pennsy?

Hamlet hump engines had cab signals.  Passenger engines had ATC for use on RF&P



Date: 06/06/19 12:40
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: ctillnc

SAL briefly experimented with cab signals between Savannah and Denmark, SC around 1950. No go. 



Date: 06/06/19 14:21
Re: Strange Signal in NS Norris Yard in Birmingham, Al
Author: 6088

Thank you all for your help, upon further investigation I did notice that down by the hump there used to be a similar signal, this one is about 4/5th of a mile from the old signal, and 9/10th of a mile from the hump tower, so it is probably a relay signal for that, and since it's off the track a ways, there was probably just no reason to remove it.



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