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Date: 06/11/19 19:33
Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: NS19K

Has the drunk girl that caused the Swanton derailment been apprehended yet? I've yet to see any official news reports that she was arrested.



Date: 06/11/19 21:05
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: CPR_4000

Swanton? Vermont?



Date: 06/11/19 21:06
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: NS19K

CPR_4000 Wrote:
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> Swanton? Vermont?

OHIO



Date: 06/12/19 00:41
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: dan

couple interesting things from this derailment   , perhaps the crew was hoping it was clear..?

video 1) sounds like the the crew was still in run 8 or whatever  ,   no slowing , what is layout there?   stupid chick has no buisness driving-looks drunk     bad language    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMwbHL_zz7M

video 2)   this report has  a video from the other side    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P13gKWL9Us

video 3) shows dangers of the scene as  a car slides into a ditch   hours later on it's own   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUfMq93qpGk


was it the god dam engine block?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/19 17:59 by dan.



Date: 06/12/19 05:01
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: Mouse

At that speed, crew might have been in full dynamic and setting brakes. Trying to make controlled stop.



Date: 06/12/19 06:22
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: farmer

No arrest has been made. Yes the law knows her identity. May have been turned over to a Grand Jury.
Honestly I don’t see her getting more than a slap on the wrist unless someone can prove criminal intent on her part.

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Date: 06/12/19 08:52
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: dan

she move?  no insurance?



Date: 06/12/19 10:22
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: NKPSOUTHERN

I've watched the video taken at the crossing several times.  It sure sounds like the train was over the crossing for several seconds before you can hear the air dump.  Eihter by the crew or by an air hose being ripped off as the train pushed the car down the tracks.  But then, I wasn't there so can only go by what I'm hearing.



Date: 06/12/19 12:09
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: MEKoch

The drunk lady in the town of Swanton hit something in the town, causing major damage.  She then drove off and landed on the RR tracks.  So, I suspect it will only be a matter of time before she is apprehended.  Leaving a trail of damage........



Date: 06/12/19 13:53
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: sp8192




Date: 06/12/19 16:07
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: justalurker66

MEKoch Wrote:
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> The drunk lady in the town of Swanton hit something in the town, causing major damage.  She
> then drove off and landed on the RR tracks.  So, I suspect it will only be a matter of time before
> she is apprehended.  Leaving a trail of damage........

Some investigation is needed since she left the scene. The videos and eye witnesses help. Otherwise who is to say the car wasn't stolen, or that she didn't go home and get drunk later.

I have witnessed two drunk drivers who managed to make it home before the police caught them. One totaled their and another car in a parking lot, then drove to their apartment and went inside. No video or description of the driver. The police can't assume that the owner was driving or that they were drunk at the time of the accident. The other one was more frustrating. I followed a guy who was driving through lawns and was directing police to his location via a 911 operator. The driver pulled in to a driveway and the dispatcher called off the response "safe at home". Better luck next time. I now keep a camera in my car.

It would be good to see the cab video to show just how little time the engineer had to see the car before he hit it. We got a better view of the car on the shared video since the headlights were aimed at the camera.

I assume the propane tank was part of the switch heaters at the interlocking? NS upgraded the Chicago Line interlockings over the past couple of years and put in new switch heaters at most locations.



Date: 06/12/19 17:52
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: farmer

Yes on the propane tank being used for a switch heater in the interlocking. Tank was knocked over and liquid leaked out of the vapor relief valve.

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Date: 06/12/19 18:10
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: BCutter

One other point about dealing with drivers who have been accused to be drinking but who left the scene before law arrived is that they can claim they went home and had a couple of stiff shots before law found them at their residence.  They admit that they had been drinking but they did it in their home!  Saw this happen following a car wreck in Missouri -- troopers admitted they could not charge the person who was supposed to be driving with DWI because of his statement. In this particular case, home was less than 1./4 mile from the crash scene and easily walkable in the time period between when dispatch received the call and the first units arrived on scene (Fire was first arriving). 

Bruce
Columbia MO



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/19 19:58 by BCutter.



Date: 06/12/19 21:30
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: toledopatch

farmer Wrote:
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> Yes on the propane tank being used for a switch
> heater in the interlocking. Tank was knocked over
> and liquid leaked out of the vapor relief valve.

To further elaborate, the well-circulated statement that the propane tank blew up was FALSE.



Date: 06/13/19 04:02
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: BigDave

dan Wrote:
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> couple interesting things from this derailment 
>  , perhaps the crew was hoping it was clear..?
>
> video 1) sounds like the the crew was still in run
> 8 or whatever  ,   no slowing , what is layout
> there?   stupid chick has no buisness
> driving-looks drunk     bad language 
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMwbHL_zz7M
>
> video 2)   this report has  a video from the
> other side 
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P13gKWL9Us
>
> video 3) shows dangers of the scene as  a car
> slides into a ditch   hours later on it's own 
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUfMq93qpGk
>
>
> was it the god dam engine block?

I don't think that car is sliding into the ditch on its own. There's a bulldozer in the trees that starts moving at the same time the car does. I think the car was pulled into that position.
 



Date: 06/13/19 07:22
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: toledopatch

> I don't think that car is sliding into the ditch
> on its own. There's a bulldozer in the trees that
> starts moving at the same time the car does. I
> think the car was pulled into that position.
>  

This is absolutely true. That's how Hulcher was pulling cars of the tracks. The TV guy pointing out the railcar's movement is clueless about how it was caused.



Date: 06/13/19 18:57
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: Narniaman

I was a physician working the Emergency Room one night when the ambulance brought in two car wreck victims from a wreck in the country. One was on a stretcher, and the other who only had minimal injuries, rode in a seat in the ambulance. 

They both turned out to be drinking. I tended to the more seriously injured one first, and after I was satisfied that he was stable, turned my attention to the one brought in sitting in the ambulance. 

He was gone -- nowhere to be seen. 

Eventually the Department of police showed up, to talk to the wreck "participants", and I told them I had no idea what happened to the second guy. About then he came walking back in to the ER -- drinking a can of beer. He explained that he was so shook up from the wreck that he needed a beer real bad and went to a nearby convenience store to get a tall cool one. 

Neither the cop nor I bought his story, as we were both pretty well convinced he was drunk when he showed up at the ER. But -- by getting some of Milwaukee's finest in his tummy, he was able to argue that the reason he had a positive breathanalyzer was because of his trip to the convenience store. 



BCutter Wrote:
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> One other point about dealing with drivers who
> have been accused to be drinking but who left the
> scene before law arrived is that they can claim
> they went home and had a couple of stiff shots
> before law found them at their residence.  They
> admit that they had been drinking but they did it
> in their home!  Saw this happen following a car
> wreck in Missouri -- troopers admitted they could
> not charge the person who was supposed to be
> driving with DWI because of his statement. In this
> particular case, home was less than 1./4 mile from
> the crash scene and easily walkable in the time
> period between when dispatch received the call and
> the first units arrived on scene (Fire was first
> arriving). 
>
> Bruce
> Columbia MO



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/13/19 19:32 by Narniaman.



Date: 06/13/19 20:03
Re: Swanton train derailment suspect still at large?
Author: SNY1337

wow.



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