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Date: 10/09/19 13:07
CMQ Sold
Author: FloridaTrainGuy

Heard through the grapevine that CMQ had been sold and possibly split up.  Anyone have any news? 



Date: 10/09/19 18:06
Re: CMQ Sold
Author: calsubd

CMQ   ???

Ed Stewart
Jacksonville, FL



Date: 10/09/19 18:15
Re: CMQ Sold
Author: 4489

FloridaTrainGuy Wrote:
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> Heard through the grapevine that CMQ had been sold
> and possibly split up.  Anyone have any news? 

Which grapevine would this be?



Date: 10/09/19 18:22
Re: CMQ Sold
Author: SD45X

It was published they wanted to shed the RR from their holdings. Wonder who got it.
https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?2,4877166



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/09/19 18:50 by SD45X.



Date: 10/09/19 18:22
Re: CMQ Sold
Author: CPR_4000

Central Maine & Quebec, owned by Fortress Investments, said to be up for sale.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/09/19 18:23 by CPR_4000.



Date: 10/09/19 18:29
Re: CMQ Sold
Author: wabash2800

Maybe G&W, the UP Borg of shortlines?

Victor A. Baird
http://www.erstwhilepublications.com



Date: 10/09/19 18:33
Re: CMQ Sold
Author: CPR_4000

wabash2800 Wrote:
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> Maybe G&W, the UP Borg of shortlines?

That would make sense, they have pretty deep pockets. As to a "split up," maybe Vermont Rail System would get the Newport, VT to Brookport, QC section with trackage rights to Farnham?



Date: 10/09/19 19:16
Re: CMQ Sold
Author: Northern

If the network is broken up, one could see one of Irving's railroads acquiring the Farnham to Brownville segment to have single line to CP outside of Montreal.  Springfield Terminal could acquire the Searsport to Brownville line to connect with Irving lines and get around their out of service line between Bangor and Mattawamkeag.  VTR may want to extend north of Newport, however, they may be hesitant to running a railroad in Canada with French speaking crews and customs inspections to manage.  Probably a distant possibility, CP could also consider the entire main line to Saint John to get another port on the eastern seaboard but that would be dependant on arrangements to acquire or lease the Eastern Maine Railway and the New Brunswick Southern from Irving east of Brownville.     



Date: 10/09/19 19:59
Re: CMQ Sold
Author: CPR_4000

I guess it would make sense for Irving to acquire it to Farnham or Montreal, but I'd be really surprised if CP wanted to take it back. They're only running Jobs 1 and 2 three times a week, aren't they? Or is it daily now?



Date: 10/11/19 08:09
Re: CMQ Sold
Author: toledopatch

CPR_4000 Wrote:
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> I guess it would make sense for Irving to acquire
> it to Farnham or Montreal, but I'd be really
> surprised if CP wanted to take it back. They're
> only running Jobs 1 and 2 three times a week,
> aren't they? Or is it daily now?

If I'm reading the local fans' Facebook page correctly, Jobs 1 and 2 normally run five days per week.

I agree, these shortlines/regionals exist because CP no longer cared to run to New Brunswick. I don't see how that would have changed.

As for Fortress selling the CMQ property, I had heard they were interested in doing so, but the "grapevine" does not mean to me that it has actually happened.
 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/19 08:10 by toledopatch.



Date: 10/11/19 08:29
Re: CM Sold
Author: FloridaTrainGuy

Toledos Wrote:
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> CPR_4000 Wrote:
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> I agree, these shortlines/regionals exist because
> CP no longer cared to run to New Brunswick. I
> don't see how that would have changed.
>

Well there is the major expansion of St. John's containerport that will change things quite a bit. 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/19 08:30 by FloridaTrainGuy.



Date: 10/12/19 08:29
Re: CM Sold
Author: Northern

FloridaTrainGuy Wrote:
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> Toledos Wrote:
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> Well there is the major expansion of St. John's
> containerport that will change things quite a
> bit. 
That might be incentive for CP to re-consider their position regarding their former lines to the Maritimes.



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