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Date: 04/13/22 14:57
GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: wabash2800

Putin is holding GPS hostage – Here’s how to get it back (yahoo.com)

Victor



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/22 15:08 by wabash2800.



Date: 04/13/22 19:43
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: ctillnc

There is some underlying truth, but this article goes way overboard. Some people have been angry ever since LORAN-C was discontinued and are pushing for money to fund eLORAN deployment. The Putin angle is just a ploy to get Congress to spend money.



Date: 04/13/22 20:08
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: wabash2800

Well, it may be no surprise that our military recently formed a space unit...

Victor



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/22 22:13 by wabash2800.



Date: 04/14/22 04:49
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: ctillnc

Yes, and anything that happens to GPS will happen to the Russian counterpart (GLONASS) too. And China's BeiDou. And Europe's Galileo. And India's NavIC. All basically the same. 



Date: 04/14/22 22:21
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: K3HX

Submarines navigate quite well absent GPS.  Last I heard, the Navy and Coasties
still are capable of navigating with astronomy but not the hot setup for a cruise
missle.  Inertial navigation is remarkably good.

Nearly 60 years ago the Army had come up with an anti-mortar system that could
track incoming rounds and send one back to the point of origin. 

I suspect technology has advanced such that modern weapons systems are less dependent on GPS.

Jamming emitters are pretty easy to locate and destroy.  The jamming signal does not
travel well and has a limited range of effectiveness.

Be Well,

Tim Colbert  K3HX
USAF '66-70.
 



Date: 04/15/22 08:19
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: Molino

Doesn't PTC rely on GPS ? 



Date: 04/15/22 10:33
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: Milw_E70

Molino Wrote:
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> Doesn't PTC rely on GPS ? 

Heavily



Date: 04/15/22 16:57
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: Drknow

PTC/EMS would be dead without GPS AFAIK. TIA

I’m sorry…. Regards.

Posted from iPhone



Date: 04/16/22 06:50
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: Molino

Drknow Wrote:
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> PTC/EMS would be dead without GPS AFAIK. TIA
>
> I’m sorry…. Regards.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lack-positive-train-control-haunts-another-deadly-collision-n844576



Date: 04/18/22 07:16
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: engineerinvirginia

Drknow Wrote:
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> PTC/EMS would be dead without GPS AFAIK. TIA
>
> I’m sorry…. Regards.
>
> Posted from iPhone

Yes it does...it will cut it self out if GPS goes out too long.....it will wake up when GPS is restored however. 



Date: 04/18/22 09:44
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: Drknow

What the OP is saying is the over reliance on GPS could come back to bite the world in the ass if something happened to the system.

Oh boy.

Regards.

Posted from iPhone



Date: 04/18/22 09:46
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: engineerinvirginia

Drknow Wrote:
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> What the OP is saying is the over reliance on GPS
> could come back to bite the world in the ass if
> something happened to the system.
>
> Oh boy.
>
> Regards.
>
> Posted from iPhone

It will....but since we lived fine without it in the stone age, we'll break out the paper maps and make do.....well those of us that can...the younger people who don't know their A** from a hole in the ground will wander around crying about the end of the world. 



Date: 04/19/22 20:12
Re: GPS a Potential Weakness, including for Transportation?
Author: Drknow

Agreed.

Posted from iPhone



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