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Date: 05/09/22 09:02
Amtrak Four E-unit Consist, a Perfect ABBA Except for Portholes
Author: MartyBernard

At the Amtrak Engine Facility in Chicago on June 16, 1977. For the 75th anniversary run of the Broadway Limited these four matching E's were used west of Harrisburg

The Amtrak units were:
440 ex-RFP E8A 1012
470 ex-UP E9B 927B
452 ex-Milw E9B 35B
428 ex-UP E9A 955A.  

Note only one unit has port holes.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/09/22 10:37 by MartyBernard.




Date: 05/09/22 09:05
Re: Amtrak Four E-unit Consist, a Perfect ABBA Except for Porthol
Author: train1275

Very interesting photo !



Date: 05/09/22 09:20
Re: Amtrak Four E-unit Consist, a Perfect ABBA Except for Porthol
Author: BuddPullman

A great view! Thank you.



Date: 05/09/22 09:52
Re: Amtrak Four E-unit Consist, a Perfect ABBA Except for Porthol
Author: Notch7

Could the lead engine have been the former RF&P 1012?  The RF&P 1100's were F-units.  I wondered if it could be the former RF&P 1012 because that engine was one of several RF&P E8's that received a second headlight for ACL runthrough interline service in the 60's.  I got to work on the 1012 many times before Amtrak got it.



Date: 05/09/22 10:24
Re: Amtrak Four E-unit Consist, a Perfect ABBA Except for Porthol
Author: ctillnc

I think Notch7 is correct. Also, I wonder if this is the last ABBA E-unit consist to pull a scheduled passenger train. 



Date: 05/09/22 13:13
Re: Amtrak Four E-unit Consist, a Perfect ABBA Except for Porthol
Author: CPR_4000

ctillnc Wrote:
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> I think Notch7 is correct. Also, I wonder if this
> is the last ABBA E-unit consist to pull a
> scheduled passenger train. 

I don't think so ... I seem to remember seeing the Broadway with A-B-B-A E's after that, but I never got them with matching paint.



Date: 05/09/22 17:08
Re: Amtrak Four E-unit Consist, a Perfect ABBA Except for Porthol
Author: Sp1110

Why did Amtrak remove the portholes on three of the units?



Date: 05/09/22 19:02
Re: Amtrak Four E-unit Consist, a Perfect ABBA Except for Porthol
Author: CPR_4000

Sp1110 Wrote:
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> Why did Amtrak remove the portholes on three of the units?

Side panels were made of a laminated steel/wood(?) product and needed to be replaced periodically. Cheaper not to replace the portholes. Also no need for FRA glazing if no windows.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/10/22 02:04 by CPR_4000.



Date: 05/09/22 19:04
Re: Amtrak Four E-unit Consist, a Perfect ABBA Except for Porthol
Author: MartyBernard

I doubt Amtrak removed them.  Probably the original RRs did.   My understanding it was to reduce maintenance.   Marty



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/09/22 20:00 by MartyBernard.



Date: 05/09/22 23:13
Re: Amtrak Four E-unit Consist, a Perfect ABBA Except for Porthol
Author: Notch7

MartyBernard Wrote:
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> I doubt Amtrak removed them.  Probably the
> original RRs did.   My understanding it was to
> reduce maintenance.   Marty

Engine 440 had portholes when was still a RF&P engine.



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