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Date: 05/23/12 07:12
Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: funnelfan

I was curious about all these PC&F boxcars, so I did some digging mostly on the railcarphotos.com website and came up with the following;

Note: Thanks to Dave Hussey and Dave Olsen for filling in missing detail.

071. PC&F Box Car 3968 -GN, BN 40' car with 9' Youngstown door


175. PC&F Box Car 4124 - SP, GWS 40' rib side car
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=14547
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=40914

130. PC&F Box Car 4762 10’-6” Plug Door -MP, FSR 50' flat roof
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=68360

276. PC&F Box Car 4949 - CP Rebuild?
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=16535

024. PC&F Box Car 4974 -MILW, WC

122. PC&F Box Car 5077 Plate B - See next two entries
239. PC&F Box Car 5077 with improved Dreadnaught Ends -BN, BNSF, MILW, CP, WC 50' flat roof
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=38423
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=10631


058. PC&F Box Car 5077 with Non-Terminating Corrugated Ends -BN, RBOX, CSXT
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=49956
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=22376
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=3051
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=42814
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52435
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=58366

174. PC&F Box Car 5102 Combination Door with 8’ Corrugated Youngstown Door and 6’ Youngstown Slide Plate B GN Signature -GN, BN
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=8945
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=69534
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=8946

082. PC&F Box Car 5148 Double Door (with terminating dreadnaught ends) -BPRR, QC, WCTR, SLC, GNWR
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=46946
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=50439
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=41217
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=61930
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=25847

156. PC&F Box Car 5148 Double Door (with non-terminating box corrugated ends) WP Signature -WP, UP w/ WP marks
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=10401
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=57061

273. PC&F Box Car 5188 (Raised Roof) -CP Rebuild
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=63544

046. PC&F Box Car 5195 12’ Plug Door Partial Waffle -SP, GWS/VCY, MNNR, CAGY
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=59984
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=16838




268. PC&F Box Car 5215 6’ and 8’ YSD V-Latch Double Plug Door -GN, BN
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=37571

043. PC&F Box Car 5241 Boston & Maine Signature -B&M, Guilford, Pan Am
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=1402
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=32917
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=47001
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=47936
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=34668

139. PC&F Box Car 5242 10’ Plug Door Plate C -GN, BN, BNSF, AOK
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=22812
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67315

142. PC&F Box Car 5243 Double Door -SSW, GWS, CRLE
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=37089
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=10055
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=46142

205. PC&F Box Car 5258 (Reduced Door) -See next three entries
068. PC&F Box Car 5258 10’ Plug Door (converted from 16’ double slider)

027. PC&F Box Car 5258 10’ YSD Replacement Door Conversion -SP, GWS, TKEN, ATW
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=30866
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=59644
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67949

225. PC&F Box Car 5258 12’ Plug Door -SP, GWS
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=35287

121. PC&F Box Car 5258 Double Door -SP, SSW, GWS/GVSR
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=5450
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=57054
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=59194

105. PC&F Box Car 5266 Plug Door -GN, BN, MRL
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=37879
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=37881
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=37033

155. PC&F Box Car 5266 ????

067. PC&F Box Car 5268 YSD V-Latch Double Plug -GN, BN
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=46188
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52781

221. PC&F Box Car 5277 Combination Door -RBOX, CNA

126. PC&F Box Car 5277 Railbox
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=56799
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=23273

236. PC&F Box Car 5277 10’ Plug Door Plate C -CNA

108. PC&F Box Car 5307 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate C -CIRR, NADX, TOE, CLC, MSV, OAR
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52483
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67184
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=5521
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=7783
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=5133
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=10221


019. PC&F Box Car 5317 -(flat roofs)BMS, EEC, GTRA, LRA, SLR, LVRC -(peaked roofs) HS, STLA, SRN....ST Mary, OCRY
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=69542
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=31581
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=58501
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=41373
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=64725
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=47083


http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=60041
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=49768
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=22127

146. PC&F Box Car 5326 Double Door (Increased Height) -WCTR, ...Waterloo, CNA
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=43273

011. PC&F Box Car 5335 -ADN, AGR, ALM, ECC
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67231
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=62693
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=49679

161. PC&F Box Car 5461 Double Door Plate C -BCIT, CNA, CPAA, PROX
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=45667
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=44557
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=38032
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=38031

023. PC&F Box Car 5472 Double Door -SP, GWS, CRLE
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=22570
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=29716
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=4503

102. PC&F Box Car 5486 10’ Plug Door (variation #1) Plate C -BN, BNSF
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52606

098. PC&F Box Car 5486 10’ Plug Door (variation #2) Plate C -BN

192. PC&F Box Car 5486 Double Door -BN, BNSF
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=5330
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=40449

280. PC&F Box Car 5504 Double Door -BCIT, BCH, ALM, SSAM, ....SRY
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67626
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=40178
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=51274


196. PC&F Box Car 5528 with Bow-Tie or bifurcated Dreadnaught Terminated Ends -ADN, ALM, CAGY,....LVRC
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=4049
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=62296


004. PC&F Box Car 5528 Plate C Double 8’ Plug Door -CLC, TOE, ...CAGY
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=61813
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=599

013. PC&F Box Car 5824 Double Plug Door Plate C -UP, ....EPRY
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=25342
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=62841
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=51306

245. PC&F Box Car 6157 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate F -MILW, CPAA, ....FGLK
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=936


272. PC&F Box Car 6179 Double Plug Door Plate F -MILW, WSOR, WC

http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=60369
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=14955

060. PC&F Box Car 6187 Double Plug Door Plate F Union Pacific Signature -UP


283. PC&F Box Car 6308 Double Door (Extended Height) -VCY Converted from B-70-81
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-81.htm

262. PC&F Box Car 6308 Double Plug Door Plate C -UP


026. PC&F Box Car 6359 Double Plug Door Plate F Union Pacific Signature -UP, IFRX, MNNR
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=34778
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=47695
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=61175

107. PC&F Box Car 6486 Double Door Plate E -CNW, ALAB
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=29527

202. PC&F Box Car 6505 Double 8’ Plug Door Heavy Duty Bifurcated Terminating Dreadnaught Ends Plate F -ATW, CLC, NADX, TOE, OC&E, ....OLRY
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52184
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=20648
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=23335
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67185
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=6620

134. PC&F Box Car 7125 Double Door (6’ and 10’ Youngstown Slider) -SP, CSXT, ....AOK, CPAA Mismarked from 7129 cars
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b070-70.htm


125. PC&F Box Car 7284 -CSX, MP

097. PC&F Box Car 7295 Double Door (6’ and 10’ Youngstown Slider) Double Sheathed -SSW, GWS/VCY Bifurcated ends
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-48.htm



223. PC&F Box Car 7348 Elongated Waffle -SP, GWS/VCY, UP, AMEX, PSMX, HPJX
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=17773
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=16184

http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=59615
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=851
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-39.htm

222. PC&F Box Car 7413 -CSX

258. PC&F Box Car 7422 Double Door with Bifurcated Terminating Dreadnaught Ends Double Sheathed -SSW, GWS/VCY mismarked from 7477
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-47.htm

086. PC&F Box Car 7477 8’ Double Door -SP
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-44.htm

163. PC&F Box Car 7633 -WP, MILW, CP, MP, UP
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=62790
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=3894
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=3852
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=20235

266. PC&F Box Car 10354 Double Plug Door Plate F+ -ATSF
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=27275

171. PC&F Box Car 10414 Quad Plug Door Plate F+ SP Signature -SP, SSW
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=46297
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=6172

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR



Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/12 06:36 by funnelfan.



Date: 05/23/12 07:34
Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: funnelfan

Honestly only a few of these would make viable model products. AS far as I see it, the only commercially viable models on the list with the current info I have are;

058. PC&F Box Car 5077 with Non-Terminating Corrugated Ends -BN, RBOX, CSXT
Three solid roadnames spanning the country, some repaint variations. Though not a terribly exciting car.

174. PC&F Box Car 5102 Combination Door with 8’ Corrugated Youngstown Door and 6’ Youngstown Slide Plate B GN Signature -GN, BN
Of the various GN plug door boxcars on the list, this was one that could have enough interest to be viable. It's distinctive enough visually with two GN schemes, a few BN schemes, and possibly a BNSF scheme. CB&Q may have also had this car, but I'm not sure.

082. PC&F Box Car 5148 Double Door (with terminating dreadnaught ends) -BPRR, QC, WCTR, SLC, GNWR
156. PC&F Box Car 5148 Double Door (with non-terminating box corrugated ends) WP Signature -WP, UP w/ WP marks
If the model can be tooled with interchangeable ends, both of these would be viable.

108. PC&F Box Car 5307 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate C -CIRR, NADX, TOE, CLC, MSV
A distinctive looking car tied to a few interesting paint schemes. SP and SSW also had a similar car.

245. PC&F Box Car 6157 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate F -MILW, CP
Possibly viable as a MILW signature car. I've also seen this car in full CP red.

202. PC&F Box Car 6505 Double 8’ Plug Door Heavy Duty Bifurcated Terminating Dreadnaught Ends Plate F -ATW, CLC, NADX, TOE, OC&E
This one might be a bit iffy, but it's a car with distinctive ends and a couple of good paint schemes.

223. PC&F Box Car 7348 Elongated Waffle -SP, UP, AMEX, PSMX, HPJX
This car would do well with SP fans. The Popsicle stick car would probably do well all around just for it's uniqueness.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/12 12:06 by funnelfan.



Date: 05/23/12 08:26
Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: WAF

Perhaps it will be like the brass stuff and only, say a 100 made.



Date: 05/23/12 09:52
Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: bnsfsd70

Wow! Thanks for digging all of this up.

- Jeff



Date: 05/23/12 11:13
Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: WAF

I would like to see some of those SP cars, plus item 202 for CLC and 82 for WCTC



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/12 11:14 by WAF.



Date: 05/23/12 11:54
Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: Fizzboy7

Some good ones in there. Thanks for making these links available. Much appreciated.



Date: 05/23/12 12:07
Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: drolsen

Great compilation, Ted. Here are a couple additions:

funnelfan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> 058. PC&F Box Car 5077 with Non-Terminating Corrugated
> Ends -BN, RBOX, CSXT
> http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=49956
> http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=22376
> http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=3051
> http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=42814
> http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52435
> http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=58366

Also C&O and SBD prior to CSXT, but those were likely all patched RBOX paint jobs. I'll check for any SBD full repaints. I would LOVE to see this car produced in HO for my CSX fleet. The subtle differences between the P-S, FMC, and PC&F Plate B cars make for an interesting mix of box cars, in my opinion.

> 134. PC&F Box Car 7125 Double Door (6’ and 10’
> Youngstown Slider)

SP/SSW B-70-70:
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b070-70.htm

An number of the Cotton Belt cars went to CSX:

CSXT 173303:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=652703

> 097. PC&F Box Car 7295 Double Door (6’ and 10’
> Youngstown Slider) Double Sheathed

SSW / Golden West (VCY) B-100-48:
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-48.htm
http://drolsen.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=499012

> 223. PC&F Box Car 7348 Elongated Waffle -SP, UP,
> AM, PSMX, HPJX
> http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=17773
> http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=16184
> http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=59615
> http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=851
> http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-39.htm

One more photo (a small one but the only one I have):

AMEX 1070:
http://drolsen.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1750939

> 258. PC&F Box Car 7422 Double Door with Bifurcated
> Terminating Dreadnaught Ends Double Sheathed

I think this is referring to these SSW/Golden West 7477 cuft cars?
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-47.htm

I definitely think the "popsicle" car would be a great model. I'd welcome any new SP cars, but especially a 5077 for CSX.

Dave



Date: 05/23/12 12:29
Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: funnelfan

Thanks Dave. I was getting some misses on the larger cars I believe due to incorrect cuft numbers. I need to do look at some of those other PC&F UP cars to see if they are close to some missing ones. I'll update the master list with the new info.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/12 12:30 by funnelfan.



Date: 05/23/12 12:40
Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: TCnR

A few of those PC&F BN heritage cars were offered in kit form from Modeler's Choice, they have since stopped advertising or however it can be described. The kit's were pretty raw but not outrageous at all.

I didn't recognize the version in the photo as having been made by Exactrail. The combo doors were pretty specific, maybe a replacement door would work out.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/12 17:54 by TCnR.



Date: 05/24/12 05:52
Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: Stottman

Unless they use allot of modular molds (which they seem to already), I dont see how many of those are viable models;

Most are close to one owner cars .S P, SSW and Golden West doesnt make 3 :)

Or, they are so similar to stuff thats already out there (plate B PC&F railbox type) that 90% wont notice a difference.



Date: 05/24/12 06:46
Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: funnelfan

With the help of others, I've edited the list to include some new additions. Those additions have pointed out a couple of other cars that could be commercially viable.

122. PC&F Box Car 5077 Plate B - See next two entries
239. PC&F Box Car 5077 with improved Dreadnaught Ends -BN, BNSF, MILW, CP, WC 50' flat roof
058. PC&F Box Car 5077 with Non-Terminating Corrugated Ends -BN, RBOX, CSXT 50' Peaked roof

If the roof and ends could be interchangeable, this model would be a good seller. Even if the parts couldn't be made interchangeable, each version probably could still stand on it's own.

163. PC&F Box Car 7633 -WP, MILW, CP, MP, UP
Not sure if there is any appetite left for 60' hi-cubes, but this car features several good roadnames.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR



Date: 05/26/12 11:18
Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars
Author: fbe

It would be nice to see the MILW high cube 50' double plug door paper cars. They were so common on the Rocky Mountain division.

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