Model Railroading > Northern California Fires - PBL

Has any one heard if PBL has avoided the fires or did they have to evacuate?

Jeff Smith
Lakewood, CA
RailMaster Hobbies

Most of the fires in that county are east of Ukiah. Since they have a P.O.Box number it's difficult to determine where they're located. They have a phone number listed on their website. I hope they're okay. Great people that offer quality models.

Weren't they working on an HO Southern Pacific 40' modernized box car?

Cheers, Jim

SPDRGWfan Wrote:
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> Weren't they working on an HO Southern Pacific 40'
> modernized box car?
>
> Cheers, Jim

Jimmy Booth is the man behind PBL, Hitech details, Star brand paint, Eel river models, Glacier Park Models, and other projects yes including the Southern Pacific 40' modernized box car...

Jimmy and I exchanged messages last night he is in NY. The Redwood Fire is about 5 miles east of them and approaching. Look on the Cal Fire map, they are just east of the Montgomery Woods.

Hoping and praying for PBL and Jimmy. Those fires are terrible.

Stack houses that close together, add dry brush and grass close to the developments and you have a disaster in the making. Houses that close together with wind like it was there is no way to stop it.

There are places in this land where structures should not be built. The rest of us pay for this through insurance, extinguishing these fires,and cleaning-up the floods.

Bill Deaver
Tehachapi, CA

MojaveBill Wrote:
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> There are places in this land where structures
> should not be built. The rest of us pay for this
> through insurance, extinguishing these fires,and
> cleaning-up the floods.

Or suppling them with enough water when they live out in the desert.

dh30973 Wrote:
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> Jimmy and I exchanged messages last night he is in
> NY. The Redwood Fire is about 5 miles east of them
> and approaching. Look on the Cal Fire map, they
> are just east of the Montgomery Woods.

Wow. 5 miles can be 5 minutes away if the wind is blowing.

Rick

wingomann Wrote:
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> MojaveBill Wrote:
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> > There are places in this land where structures
> > should not be built. The rest of us pay for
> this
> > through insurance, extinguishing these
> fires,and
> > cleaning-up the floods.
>
> Or suppling them with enough water when they live
> out in the desert.

NorCal is NOT the desert. SoCal is. These fires are in NorCal.

PHall Wrote:
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> NorCal is NOT the desert. SoCal is. These fires
> are in NorCal.

Maybe not technically but I grew up in Davis with an annual yearly rainfall of about 19 inched. Davis is in northen Californis just west of Sacramento and was very dry in summer months. A desert is defined as 10 inches or less. Grass fires were always a risk and fireworks forbidden.

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PHall Wrote:
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> These fires are in NorCal.

http://www.calfire.ca.gov/general/firemaps

For PBL, yes.  But not all of the fires are in one place.  It's difficult to keep this on topic.  Let's hope for the best, and prepare for the worst. 

Larry

 

Jimmy and his operation are a class act.Hope their operation escape the fires ,and all remain safe.
Regards,DK

PHall Wrote:
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> wingomann Wrote:
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> > MojaveBill Wrote:
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> > > There are places in this land where
> structures
> > > should not be built. The rest of us pay for
> > this
> > > through insurance, extinguishing these
> > fires,and
> > > cleaning-up the floods.
> >
> > Or suppling them with enough water when they
> live
> > out in the desert.
>
> NorCal is NOT the desert. SoCal is. These fires
> are in NorCal.

He knows it's not desert, he has property in the area. He was making a different point.

Chris

MojaveBill Wrote:
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> There are places in this land where structures
> should not be built. The rest of us pay for this
> through insurance, extinguishing these fires,and
> cleaning-up the floods.

And when they build them close as those were there is no way you can stop a wind blown fire from taking many if not all homes out. And that along with brush up to the sub divisions boarders does nothing but help burn things to the ground.

ChrisCampi Wrote:
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> PHall Wrote:
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> > wingomann Wrote:
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> > > MojaveBill Wrote:
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> > > > There are places in this land where
> > structures
> > > > should not be built. The rest of us pay for
> > > this
> > > > through insurance, extinguishing these
> > > fires,and
> > > > cleaning-up the floods.
> > >
> > > Or supp ling them with enough water when they
> > live
> > > out in the desert.
> >
> > NorCal is NOT the desert. SoCal is. These fires
> > are in NorCal.
>
> He knows it's not desert, he has property in the
> area. He was making a different point.
>
> Chris

The point I was making was that a lot of people who are living in areas that can be called flood plains, earthquake prone or have fire danger are paying for the infrastructure required for people to live in the desert. MojaveBill was throwing rocks at the people who are in fire prone or flood areas. Because of his name I was subtlety pointing out that he too has others paying for his ability to live where he wants to live.

By the way, I would bet that most of the people who have been devastated by the fire in Santa Rosa NEVER thought that the fire departments would be so helpless in stopping fires like this in their city. It's one thing to be living in a rural area with dry brush or forest all around you. You understand that there is a risk. But you would think your risk to wildfire would be low to non-existant living in the middle of suburbia. There's going to be a lot of lessions learned and changes in building codes from these fires.

So, all the posts yet only mentions that Jim Booth was in NY. No other news from PBL? I have emailed them and have not heard from them.

Jeff Smith
Lakewood, CA
RailMaster Hobbies

UPJeff Wrote:
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> So, all the posts yet only mentions that Jim Booth
> was in NY. No other news from PBL? I have
> emailed them and have not heard from them.

AT&T and PG&E have a major restoration job ahead of them to restore power and communications in this area. For example, over 700 Cell Towers were damaged/destroyed.
They probably haven't replied because they have no power or communications.

PBL is PeterBuilt Locomotive works started by Bill Peters many moons ago. Is he still with us and with the company. I talked with him some 20 odd years ago when i purchased my resistance soldering outfit from them.