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Date: 03/07/19 11:07
Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: Jeff

Trying to add the most obvious detail for a set of HO SP PAs. The icicle breakers are right on top.  Without them the model really looks inadequate.  I've tried the Custom Finishing set but would like to do just a little bit better.  Can anyone direct me to a drawing with dimensions?  If it is in any of the magazines my club's library probably has it.  Thaks in advance.  Jeff



Date: 03/07/19 11:27
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: CPR_4000

Bob Zenk did a great article on modeling SP PA's in Railroad Model Craftsman back in the 70's or 80's. I'd be surprised if Bob didn't go into some detail on the subject of the ice breakers.



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Date: 03/07/19 11:57
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: nydepot

It was Mainline Modeler starting in 1/80.



Date: 03/07/19 12:03
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: UPJeff

Contact Union Terminal Imports.  I bet they have the measurements.

Jeff Smith
Lakewood, CA
RailMaster Hobbies



Date: 03/07/19 17:40
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: photobob

Heres a couple of photos I have of the roof tops. I don't know if they will be of any help.

Robert Morris
Dunsmuir, CA
Robert Morris Photography






Date: 03/07/19 20:23
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: MojaveBill

Gold Medal Models has a sheet of brass parts for SP PAs in N scale including the ice breakers, snow plow pilots, etc. I don't know if they also do HO.

Bill Deaver
Mojave, CA



Date: 03/07/19 21:50
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: PHall

MojaveBill Wrote:
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> Gold Medal Models has a sheet of brass parts for
> SP PAs in N scale including the ice breakers, snow
> plow pilots, etc. I don't know if they also do HO.

They do not make these parts in HO. N scale only.



Date: 03/07/19 22:49
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: Jeff

Lots of good leads, thanks very much.  I started with the Zenk articles in the second and third issues of Mainline Modeler, he modeles before the dome cars.  Easier I guess.  Again, thanks.  Jeff



Date: 03/07/19 23:04
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: pullmanboss

For HO, go to Hi-Tech Details. Part #HTD-6016, Ice Breaker Bars, Tall Style, SP F, E & PA units @$2.95 per set (plastic).
http://www.hitechdetails.com/Catalog/cfm/catalog-htd.cfm

From the pull-down Category menu choose Item 3: HO Detail Parts - Diesels - Plastic & Rubber. It's on page 2.

Tom M.



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Date: 03/09/19 07:45
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: BoilingMan

While on the subject- what about the bars on the SD9’s in snow service? I’m about to tackle a flanger set and will need bars for the Cadillacs. Any kits or plans out there for these?
Thanks
SR



Date: 03/09/19 08:52
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: TCnR

Here's the icicle breaker bar eye candy thread from years ago, no dimensions though:

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,1065964,page=1

Date: 12/27/05 19:55
More icicle breakers
Author: Betsy



Date: 03/09/19 09:34
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: sixaxlecentury

Dave Maffei was the expert on GP38 and SD9 Icicle breakers.   He used to be on here?  



Date: 03/09/19 09:38
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: TCnR

sixaxlecentury Wrote:
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> Dave Maffei was the expert on GP38 and SD9 Icicle
> breakers.   He used to be on here?  

Dave's on here just about every day, Dave's work is in the above posted thread as well. Both Betsy and Dave display their models at just about every RPM meet on the West Coast. The photos show up on a number of Flickr and PBase photo collections of the RPM meets.



Date: 03/09/19 10:39
Re: Asking for Help: SP PA icicle breaker information
Author: dmaffei

Nice top shots Bob. That's a huge help. Liz explains how she used 0.010 x 0.030 brass strip for her SD9s here
https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,4467463,4467463#4467463
By using Bob's top shots, you can get real close with proportions. That's what I did on a pair of GP38s and SD9s
https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,1151884,1151977#1151977  (SD-9s)
https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,1057944,1057944#1057944 (GP38-2s)
Funny thing is, I just started working on some Proto SD9s I've had for 20 years to break up the monotony of beet gons. The pair of SD9s were traded away years ago. Time do do some for myself
SPH&TS Trainline Issue 90 has some SD9E snow service info as well for those interested...

So Jeff, You can try using the custom finishing PN#249 if you can find them or get the Details associates flat brass 0.010 x 0.030 and fabricate them.

Keep us posted on what you decide!

Dave


TCnR Wrote:
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> sixaxlecentury Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dave Maffei was the expert on GP38 and SD9
> Icicle
> > breakers.   He used to be on here?  
>
> Dave's on here just about every day,



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