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Date: 09/10/19 13:02
Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: fltenwheeler

Hi

I am looking to verify a spreadsheet that I am working on. It contains Pullman floor plans that have appeared in Mainline Modeler. If anyone can add information I would be grateful.

Thanks

Tim Meyer



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/10/19 13:04 by fltenwheeler.




Date: 09/10/19 22:04
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: MojaveBill

They did a great job publishing these plans then, which may have helped get some models produced.
I used some of them for kitbashing.

Bill Deaver
Mojave, CA



Date: 09/11/19 04:03
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: CPR_4000

I wonder why they did some twice? Any difference between the earlier and later drawings? Also there's one plan number that doesn't show the type of accommodations.



Date: 09/11/19 04:33
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: fltenwheeler

CPR_4000 Wrote:
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> I wonder why they did some twice? Any difference
> between the earlier and later drawings? Also
> there's one plan number that doesn't show the type
> of accommodations.

On some of the information all I use was a picture of of the index for the magazine. I would like anyone that has a copy of the magazine help me update the list.

Thanks

Tim

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Date: 09/11/19 07:34
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: BoilingMan

Try contacting the California State RR Museum Library. They have a pretty extensive magazine collection and will copy what you want and send it to you- an amazing service!
SR



Date: 09/11/19 14:19
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: trainnut7

I will look through my drawings in a day or two and get back to you.  Most of these old mags can be bought on ebay through old mag dealers.  You just have to look for them.



Date: 09/11/19 18:32
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: wabash2800

Most model railroad magazines you can't give away. Mainline Modelers can go anywere from $4 to $20 or more each depending on which ones. Anyone who has a complete collection can get some bucks.Try finding the first issue! I wonder what someone would want for that one?

Victor A. Baird
http/www.erstwhilepublications.com

trainnut7 Wrote:
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> I will look through my drawings in a day or two
> and get back to you.  Most of these old mags can
> be bought on ebay through old mag dealers.  You
> just have to look for them.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/11/19 18:33 by wabash2800.



Date: 09/11/19 21:01
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: PHall

wabash2800 Wrote:
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> Most model railroad magazines you can't give away.
> Mainline Modelers can go anywere from $4 to $20 or
> more each depending on which ones. Anyone who has
> a complete collection can get some bucks.Try
> finding the first issue! I wonder what someone
> would want for that one?
>
> Victor A. Baird
> http/www.erstwhilepublications.com
>
> trainnut7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I will look through my drawings in a day or two
> > and get back to you.  Most of these old mags
> can
> > be bought on ebay through old mag dealers. 
> You
> > just have to look for them.

Which is why I got the CD from the C&O Historical Society that has the COMPLETE Mainline Modeller library from the first to last issue.
A bit pricy but worth it.



Date: 09/12/19 07:02
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: trainnut7

I have found a few more to add to your list.
2522 C   7 Comp 2 Drawing Rm  4-85 issue
2585 D   10 sect  1 Drawing Rm   2 Comp   8-85 issue
4158 and 4172  both in 3-87 issue
3975 C   3-1-Lounge  10-88 issue
Hope this helps, and good luck with your work.



Date: 09/12/19 10:49
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: fltenwheeler

trainnut7 Wrote:
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> I have found a few more to add to your list.
> 2522 C   7 Comp 2 Drawing Rm  4-85 issue
> 2585 D   10 sect  1 Drawing Rm   2 Comp  
> 8-85 issue
> 4158 and 4172  both in 3-87 issue
> 3975 C   3-1-Lounge  10-88 issue
> Hope this helps, and good luck with your work.

Thanks

Tim

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Date: 09/12/19 11:00
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: fltenwheeler

fltenwheeler Wrote:

Thanks for the help.

Tim
-------------------------------------------------------
> trainnut7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have found a few more to add to your list.
> > 2522 C   7 Comp 2 Drawing Rm  4-85 issue
> > 2585 D   10 sect  1 Drawing Rm   2
> Comp  
> > 8-85 issue
> > 4158 and 4172  both in 3-87 issue
> > 3975 C   3-1-Lounge  10-88 issue
> > Hope this helps, and good luck with your work.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>
> Posted from iPhone



Date: 09/12/19 12:48
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: trainnut7

The Mainline Modeler mags are out there on E Bay.  I found two plans that I did not have. 



Date: 09/12/19 17:21
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: fltenwheeler

Here is the updated list.

Tim




Date: 09/13/19 13:27
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: pullmanboss

Notes on your updated list...
The Walthers and Branchline 10-1-2 sleepers are Plan 3585, not 2585. Plan 3xxx cars are (generally) a foot longer than Plan 2xxx. 
The Branchline 6-3 is Plan 3523 or 3523A while the Walthers is Plan 3523C. They are both 6-3's but have different floor plans so are not identical models. The series name is "Glen".
Plan 3583 series name is "Willow".
Plan 3584 series names are "Point" and "Peak".
I think your Plan 3963 is a typo. The plan in that issue was 3973.
Plan 3979's most common series name is "Cent". 
Plan 3980 series name is "Night".
Plan 3997 series names are "Mansion" and "House".
Plan 4022 series name is "Emerald".
Plan 4036 series names are "Clover" and "Garden".
Plan 4058 cars were lightweights. My MAINLINE MODELERs are up in the attic so I can't pull the issue to see what drawing you're referring to.
Plan 4060 and 4084 series name is "Poplar". Both are 6-6's but have completely different floor plans.
Plan 4061 cars were numbered tourist cars converted from named 12-1 sleepers from both 2410x and 3410x populations. 
Plan 4090 series name is "Tower".
Plan 4153 and 4154 cars were lightweights, series name "Eagle".
Plan 4168 cars were lightweights.
After the war, the demand for roomette sleepers was so great that Pullman pulled a number of old, non-air conditioned 12-1 section sleepers from storage and rebuilt them with roomettes. They were air conditioned and given various "tree" names.  The external differences (window placement) were minimal but the interiors were completely different. On your list are Plans 4158 ("Elm") and 4172 ("Oak").

On my web site (pullmanproject.com) you can download a rather large Excel spreadsheet listing all of the heavyweight and lightweight sleepers and parlor cars Pullman built or operated, starting with the first steel sleeper, JAMESTOWN. Included are all the Budd and ACF sleepers Pullman staffed and maintained, but cars that Pullman built for railroad ownership and operation, like coaches and business cars, are not. All info in it came from original Pullman records, and it is as complete as those records permit. You can see how each car was equipped and painted over its life span. Assignment information is not included.

Tom Madden

 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/19 15:29 by pullmanboss.



Date: 09/13/19 14:56
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: fltenwheeler

Thank you for your help Tom.

Tim



Date: 09/13/19 15:28
Re: Mainline Modeler Pullman Plans
Author: pullmanboss

Correction - I got the Walthers and Branchline 6-3 Plans reversed. The Branchline is 3523 or 3523A; the Walthers is 3523C. I'll edit the original post.

Tom M.



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