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Date: 11/04/19 13:21
New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: trainworm

Cabeese? Caboosii?


Ho scale
With and without sound

They look pretty nice. They also said that the santa fe caboose is still coming and will be announced later.

http://athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=Caboose



Date: 11/04/19 13:48
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: GRNDMND

The UP CA-8's look really nice. $110.00 retail for a caboose with lights is getting up there...

KC - Yes, I know it's all relative



Date: 11/04/19 14:25
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: SPDRGWfan

GRNDMND Wrote:
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> The UP CA-8's look really nice. $110.00 retail for
> a caboose with lights is getting up there...
>
> KC - Yes, I know it's all relative

Not really getting "up there".  Relative to the Genesis Bay Windows that were first announce in 2012, which were MSRP $99.98 for the lighted versions. So in 7 years, the price has only gone up ten dollars for the lighted version of a Genesis caboose. 

That's not too bad.  BTW, the street price of the sound bay window was around $6x something.  So if these new ICC cabooses are under $80 with lights, then in 2020, that won't be too bad all things considered.

I would be interested in the UP caboose which is hopefully matches those used in the Kaiser joint UP/D&RGW service.  I already had a Centralia as a stand-in if need be.

Cheers, Jim



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/19 16:31 by SPDRGWfan.



Date: 11/04/19 15:22
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: funnelfan

Not really liking how the cupola on the UP CA-8 cabooses seems to be a bit wider than the body. Athearn should fix that before production;

http://athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATHG78518

Ted Curphey
Cheney, WA



Date: 11/04/19 16:21
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: RuleG

The cabooses come with sound and no-sound options.  What sorts of sounds come from a caboose that cause modelers pay a higher price?



Date: 11/04/19 16:24
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: mkerner

Hopefully in future runs we will get SCL and Family Lines on the Seaboard caboose. As far the price have you looked at used brass lately.
Michael t Kerner
Collinsville, IL

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Date: 11/04/19 16:33
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: WrongWayMurphy

Probably a Soundtraxx “sound car”.

I like having one sound car in a train, and one in the caboose would be nice too.


RuleG Wrote:
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> The cabooses come with sound and no-sound
> options.  What sorts of sounds come from a
> caboose that cause modelers pay a higher price?



Date: 11/04/19 16:34
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: NSTopHat

mkerner Wrote:
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> Hopefully in future runs we will get SCL and
> Family Lines on the Seaboard caboose. As far the
> price have you looked at used brass lately.
> Michael t Kerner
> Collinsville, IL
>
> Posted from Android

Michael;

They are doing Seaboards, here's the link for one of them, 4 road numbers in all for SBD.

http://athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATHG78509

Russ

 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/19 16:35 by NSTopHat.



Date: 11/04/19 16:35
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: SPDRGWfan

mkerner Wrote:
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> Hopefully in future runs we will get SCL and
> Family Lines on the Seaboard caboose. As far the
> price have you looked at used brass lately.
> Michael t Kerner
> Collinsville, IL

Yes. Maybe it depends on the caboose type and road. D&RGW 01400 series cabooses seem to command fairly high price for ones with good paint jobs, in the $250 to $350 range I have observed.

OTOH, decorated UP cabooses seem to be considerably less.



Date: 11/04/19 17:15
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: TCnR

RuleG Wrote:
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> The cabooses come with sound and no-sound
> options.  What sorts of sounds come from a
> caboose that cause modelers pay a higher price?

Knowing a few retired Conductors and Brakeman I'd imagine something like the sound of sawing logs, with a dull saw missing a few teeth.



Date: 11/05/19 02:45
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: mkerner

NSTopHat Wrote:
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> mkerner Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hopefully in future runs we will get SCL and
> > Family Lines on the Seaboard caboose. As far
> the
> > price have you looked at used brass lately.
> > Michael t Kerner
> > Collinsville, IL
> >
> > Posted from Android
>
> Michael;
>
> They are doing Seaboards, here's the link for one
> of them, 4 road numbers in all for SBD.
>
> http://athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=AT
> HG78509
>
> Russ
>
>  

Those are actually Seaboard Air Line not Seaboard System. Most SBD ones I remember seeing where in Family Lines paint with SBD reporting Mark's replacing the SCL reporting Mark's
Michael t Kerner
Collinsville, IL



Date: 11/05/19 04:14
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: calsubd

when they say lighing do they mean interior lighing or marker lights ?

Ed Stewart
Jacksonville, FL



Date: 11/05/19 06:41
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: atsf5704

calsubd Wrote:
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> when they say lighing do they mean interior
> lighing or marker lights ?

From the annoucement:

LED LIGHT EQUIPPED FEATURES:
• LED lighting for long life and reliable operation
• On-board DCC Decoder by NCE – Operates in DCC and Analog (DC) with lighting Functions Controllable in DCC
• Various classes will feature single or dual roof markers, or end-mount marker lights, per prototype and/or era
• LED Interior Lights
• All functions NMRA compatible in DCC mode

Thr announcement is here:
http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/102519/03_GEN_ICC_Caboose_102519.pdf



Date: 11/05/19 06:51
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: binder001

I feel I can almost lay claim to Athearn doing some of these cars :-)  I have a long running project doing a couple Burlington NE13's with relocated windows, plus I just bought another UP CA9 from a large auction site.  When I get a project almost done and am starting to feel good about it, a manufacturer comes along and does it better.  

Personally I am VERY happy with the UP cars!  I love UP cabooses and have bought multiples of the Intermountain and Trix rivetted side CA3/4 types.  The CA8 (and the functionally identical CA9s) were welded side cars from the mid 1960s so they represent something different from anything available in plastic before.  There are several lettering variations appropriate for these cars over the years.  Even though they won't be here until the summer of 2020 I am already drooling (or foaming) with anticipation.

A big THANK YOU to Athearn for the UP and CB&Q cars!

Gary B.
Waverly, NE



Date: 11/05/19 07:52
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: alcoc636

Snoring?



Date: 11/05/19 08:26
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: WAF

UP caboose looks like an extended cab version they made a few years ago



Date: 11/05/19 09:00
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: binder001

UP never had extended vision cabooses, but their standard caboose design from 1942 onwards had a full width cupola, the full width of the body.  UP bypassed the extended vision caboose and went to bay window cars.  The few extended vision cabooses on the UP were ex-MoPac via the merger.

Gary B.
Waverly, NE



Date: 11/05/19 11:48
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: hartrick24

GRNDMND Wrote:
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> The UP CA-8's look really nice. $110.00 retail for
> a caboose with lights is getting up there...
>
> KC - Yes, I know it's all relative

  You are correct in getting up there. Enough is enough on these prices. $110.00 on a caboose.They can have it.
  Steve H...



Date: 11/05/19 20:49
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: SantaFeRuss

hartrick24 Wrote:
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> GRNDMND Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The UP CA-8's look really nice. $110.00 retail
> for
> > a caboose with lights is getting up there...
> >
> > KC - Yes, I know it's all relative
>
>   You are correct in getting up there. Enough is
> enough on these prices. $110.00 on a caboose.They
> can have it.
>   Steve H...

Athearn's stuff in general is too damed expensive. Too bad.

SantaFeRuss



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/19 21:47 by SantaFeRuss.



Date: 11/05/19 21:13
Re: New Athearn Genesis cabooses announced
Author: CSX602

If a fully detailed road specific caboose with LED lighting and marker lights had been introduced in 1990 at $55 retail would you have bought it?   
(BTW, I think a majority would say "Yes")

Factoring in inflation, average income, consumer price index, etc... the $110 in 2020 will be less than what $55 was in 1990...  So if somebody would have paid $55 in 1990, they shouldn't have much issue paying $110 in 2020...

Of course, if you take a look at what your salary was in 1990 and compare it to today, then that is going to play into how you feel about the $110 price... If you make a lot more now than then and your income has kept up with inflation then you probably see the new cabooses as at least reasonably priced if not a bargain.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/19 21:30 by CSX602.



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