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Date: 10/05/22 12:56
Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: BlackWidow

The railroad museum where I volutneer received a donation.  The passenger unit pictured and 5 or 6 passenger cars like the one in the picture were donated.  Does anyone have any idea who the manufacturer is and when these items were made?






Date: 10/05/22 13:24
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: rfdatalink

Are those possibly built from old Strombecker kits?

Stephen



Date: 10/05/22 14:02
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: MojaveBill

I had a cast metal E-2 like that one once upon a time which I painted. Unk on he cars...

Bill Deaver
Tehachapi, CA



Date: 10/05/22 17:31
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: lynnpowell

Do you have more photos that you can post?



Date: 10/05/22 19:09
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: wabash2800

I have an elderly friend out of town that used to run a hobby shop. I will ask him. He's a bit of a historian when it comes to model trains.

Victor B.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/05/22 19:18 by wabash2800.



Date: 10/05/22 21:42
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: BlackWidow

Thanks for the replies.  I can take some more photos when I up there Saturday and then will post them.



Date: 10/06/22 04:51
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: Korigaoka1811

The passenger car looks like a model built by a company called Gilbert around about 1960 or so.  The E2A, I have no idea.

John H.



Date: 10/06/22 08:28
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: wabash2800

I'm still waiting to hear from a friend, but I think Strombecker made some kits that look like that E unit. If so, the loco kit could date back to the late 1930s.

Victor B.



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Date: 10/07/22 18:52
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: boejoe

My experience as a boy (in the early 50's) with Strombecker (I believe based in Chicago) HO kits were all wood structure with paper sides.  The box cars were easily converted to operate with addition of proper trucks and couplers.  Strombecker furnished their trucks made from a wooden block with inserts for two metal rods for the axles and the wooden wheels (with a flange) were pressed into position.  Couplers were a hook in the truck assembly for one end of the car and an eye for the opposite end.  If the metal pieces shown in the photos are Strombecker, I will be surprised.
jb



Date: 10/08/22 19:24
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: wabash2800

If you look closely at the passenger cars, the superstructures are definitely made from wood. In talking to my friend, he didn't recall Strombecker making a Santa Fe E but said it could be a B&O or Rock  Island E unit redone for Santa Fe with a poor paint job and decals.

Victor B.



Date: 10/08/22 20:17
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: BlackWidow

I have attached 7 more photos.  One of them is next to an Athearn Blue Box passenger care for a size comparison.








Date: 10/08/22 20:18
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: BlackWidow

There are 6 passenger cars in the set, plus the A and B units.  








Date: 10/08/22 20:20
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: BlackWidow

Final picture.  Comparison with Athearn Blue Box




Date: 10/12/22 11:43
Re: Can anyone identify these ancient HO items?
Author: BlackWidow

After discussions at the museum, we now believe these are hand build HO cars from before World War 2.



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