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Date: 11/18/12 04:16
Amtrak Deadhead Via Equipment Move
Author: Ray_Murphy

I have heard that this morning's Amtrak Train 68 (Montreal-Albany section) will be followed by a special move of the cars (including two Park dome-observation cars) that Via is loaning to Amtrak for two weeks.

The crew goes on-duty at 8:30 AM; Amtrak 68 leaves Montreal's Central Station at 9:30 AM.

Ray



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/12 04:23 by Ray_Murphy.



Date: 11/18/12 05:10
Re: Amtrak Deadhead Via Equipment Move
Author: joemvcnj

HEP-II or LRC ? My guess is the former.



Date: 11/18/12 08:22
Re: Amtrak Deadhead Via Equipment Move
Author: Ray_Murphy

The train departed Montreal about 10:30. It's all Budd equipment. Amtrak 822 leads.

It should follow 68 quite closely after the 68's 1 hour+ border stop.

Ray



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/12 08:32 by Ray_Murphy.



Date: 11/18/12 08:26
Re: Amtrak Deadhead Via Equipment Move
Author: andersonb109

What is Amtrak doing with the two dome cars? No coach capacity there.



Date: 11/18/12 08:38
Re: Amtrak Deadhead Via Equipment Move
Author: Lackawanna484

Should be a spectacular day for train chasing. Temps in the 40s, light breeze, bright sunshine.

Wonder what the northbound opposing move situation looks like? Expect a lot of radio traffic, I'd think, as the movements and their meets are planned out



Date: 11/18/12 08:59
Re: Some Pics...
Author: Ray_Murphy

St-Lambert.






Date: 11/18/12 09:05
Re: Some Pics...
Author: dan

atk gets some decent cars

cheapest way to sample a park car



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/12 15:39 by dan.



Date: 11/18/12 10:07
Re: Some Pics...
Author: joemvcnj

Passengers will ask why can't Amtrak get NEW cars like these.
Some of the coaches are HEP-I. They have probably not been in the states since they left Red Lion in 1955.
The HEP-II's are all native to US railroads, not the CP.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/12 10:10 by joemvcnj.



Date: 11/18/12 10:20
Re: Some Pics...
Author: Lackawanna484

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> Passengers will ask why can't Amtrak get NEW cars
> like these.
> Some of the coaches are HEP-I. They have probably
> not been in the states since they left Red Lion in
> 1955.
> The HEP-II's are all native to US railroads, not
> the CP.


Thanks for the pictures. Were you able to ID the Park cars?



Date: 11/18/12 10:46
Re: Some Pics...
Author: Ray_Murphy

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> Thanks for the pictures. Were you able to ID the
> Park cars?

Tweedsmuir Park and Evangeline Park.



Date: 11/18/12 10:48
Re: Some Pics...
Author: CREngineer

Total of 12
Consist: 4HEP1, 1HEP1, 1PARK X 2



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/12 11:03 by CREngineer.



Date: 11/18/12 12:05
Re: Some Pics...
Author: knotch8

My guess is that the Park cars will be the food service on whatever assignments these cars end up on.



Date: 11/18/12 12:07
Re: Some Pics...
Author: Lackawanna484

Ray_Murphy Wrote:
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> Lackawanna484 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks for the pictures. Were you able to ID
> the
> > Park cars?
>
> Tweedsmuir Park and Evangeline Park.

Thank you



Date: 11/18/12 12:09
Re: Some Pics...
Author: joemvcnj

< 4HEP1, 1HEP1 >

Is there a typo there ?



Date: 11/18/12 12:13
Re: Some Pics...
Author: CREngineer

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> < 4HEP1, 1HEP1 >
>
> Is there a typo there ?


yes there is, sorry:
Consist will be starting tuesday with #69
P-42
4-HEP1 Coaches
1-HEP2 Coach
1-Park Car (used as a cafe car)



Date: 11/18/12 12:16
Re: Some Pics...
Author: knotch8

Sorry to ask a question that most folks might know the answer to: What's the difference between a HEP1 coach and a HEP2 coach?



Date: 11/18/12 12:24
Re: Some Pics...
Author: CREngineer

knotch8 Wrote:
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> Sorry to ask a question that most folks might know
> the answer to: What's the difference between a
> HEP1 coach and a HEP2 coach?


HEP 1 is 62 seat long distance
HEP 2 is 60 seat corridor car with a galley in the B end for food service and cart service



Date: 11/18/12 12:43
Re: Some Pics...
Author: MEKoch

I shall assume that the dome cannot go into Penn NY because of the catenary. So it will come off at Albany southbound and be added northbound?



Date: 11/18/12 13:23
Re: Some Pics...
Author: swirsk53

reports are that these consists will operate Albany-Rens to Montreal, with cross platform change at Albany-Rens for NY Penn connection; Park cars are supposed to provide "lounge" space. Does anyone know if cafe-snack service will operate from HEP II coach's galley or the Park car?



Date: 11/18/12 13:32
Re: Some Pics...
Author: NGotwalt

Anyone know how long this arrangement is to last? Because I'm gonna need to get up and ride a Park Car on the Adirondack.
Nick



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