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Passenger Trains > Is your subway spying on you?Date: 01/08/19 06:02 Is your subway spying on you? Author: Lackawanna484 Washington Post has an article this morning about the new order of subway cars for DC Metro. These cars, made by a US affiliate of Chinese company CRRC, are equipped with inward and outside cameras and microphone.
The fear is spies could use this info to listen to Pentagon or Congressional experts discussing stuff in the subway. The Chinese company has won several recent subway deals. (Link to follow) Posted from Android Date: 01/08/19 06:33 Re: Is your subway spying on you? Author: ALCO630 Do pentagon or Congressional experts actually ride the subway?
Posted from Android Date: 01/08/19 07:21 Re: Is your subway spying on you? Author: SP4360 I'd guess more of the minion types would ride it over the supposed "experts".
ALCO630 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do pentagon or Congressional experts actually ride > the subway? > > Posted from Android Date: 01/08/19 07:43 Re: Is your subway spying on you? Author: ctillnc I once rode a high-speed train in China. Not only were there interior cameras everywhere, one of the coaches had a compartment where all the surveillance was taking place with a sign on the door -- which was always left open. For that matter, if you ride trains in the UK, you're probably on camera anywhere.
Date: 01/08/19 07:44 Re: Is your subway spying on you? Author: joemvcnj You are as well on a lot of newer transit buses in the US.
Date: 01/08/19 13:26 Re: Is your subway spying on you? Author: wabash2800 And the Chinese are using state-of-the-art facial recognition so they can catalog you and find you if necessary.
Victor A. Baird http://www.erstwhilepublications.com ctillnc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I once rode a high-speed train in China. Not only > were there interior cameras everywhere, one of the > coaches had a compartment where all the > surveillance was taking place with a sign on the > door -- which was always left open. For that > matter, if you ride trains in the UK, you're > probably on camera anywhere. Date: 01/08/19 22:11 Re: Is your subway spying on you? Author: MojaveBill The DC Metro has a stop at the Pentagon. When my wife and I boarded there in the '80s
we had to stand up for the rest of the ride to the Capitol. Bill Deaver Tehachapi, CA Date: 01/09/19 01:54 Re: Is your subway spying on you? Author: cchan006 wabash2800 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > And the Chinese are using state-of-the-art facial > recognition so they can catalog you and find you > if necessary. > > Victor A. Baird > http://www.erstwhilepublications.com Yup. Because of that, they boast that their unmanned stores don't get shoplifted. (propaganda or truth?) I watched a reporter alter her facial features (different hairstyle, make up, and so forth) to try to beat the facial recognition technology, and she failed. Date: 01/09/19 01:59 Re: Is your subway spying on you? Author: cchan006 Lackawanna484 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > The fear is spies could use this info to listen to > Pentagon or Congressional experts discussing stuff > in the subway. Chinese have been guilty of industrial espionage for many years. The paranoia might be justified, but intentionally or not, WaPo is distracting people away from a more serious issue, of domestic surveillance. I guess WWII era posters don't work anymore, so this is the modern version of "loose lips sink ships?" Date: 01/09/19 07:08 Re: Is your subway spying on you? Author: PHall You're on somebodies camera just about any place you go in public these days.
Don't believe me? Look around for cameras next time you go out. They're everywhere. Date: 01/09/19 08:34 Re: Is your subway spying on you? Author: cchan006 PHall Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > You're on somebodies camera just about any place > you go in public these days. > Don't believe me? Look around for cameras next > time you go out. They're everywhere. It's beyond that now. Mass media usually throw in stories of "immoral" actions caught on surveillance video that might have gone unnoticed otherwise. The narrative? Make people accept the presence of cameras as a "good" thing. Not too different from initial "studies" denying the connection between cell phone use and vehicle accidents, while touting its usefulness for "emergencies" and other corner cases to exploit people's fear into adapting them for daily use. Smartphone is probably the #1 tool compromising privacy today. Back befoe "The Cloud", data from the cameras usually stayed isolated. Not anymore. Seldom-reported cases of IoT ("Internet of Things") hacking should alarm people. There was one case where the hacker scared a homeowner by hijacking his "high tech" security system. Date: 01/09/19 08:45 Re: Is your subway spying on you? Author: Lackawanna484 Our county police now have a database of private surveillance cameras in homes and stores for many neighborhoods. They're not wired up to a central database (yet), but they've been helpful in resolving various issues.
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